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Old January 12 2013, 02:45 AM   #442
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Re: The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey - Grading & Discussion (Spoilers

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Even Tolkien wanted to move away from that, though. Every time he wrote the Hobbit, he tried to edge it towards the Lord of the Rings. Not just the rewrite, but the Quest of Erebor too. I think to go that extreme is to deny that they are part of the same universe. It's a lighter story from a lighter time. In reality, there should be hints of something darker, while I think the movie is the LOTR in tone, but with hints of something lighter. In other words, it's a question of emphasis rather than black and white.
The best one can explain the difference between LOTR and The Hobbit is to say different authors, Frodo and Bilbo. In the real world, stuff changed
While that's a good in-universe explanation, the question is if it's the right artistic choice. Tolkein, imo, thought it wasn't, which is why he tried to make the Hobbit more serious as time went on.
Tolkien likely would have liked to have re-written The Hobbit more extensively. The Humphrey Carter biography notes Tolkien's later distaste for the aspects that talked down to children and material that was -too like contemporary delusions about 'fairy stories'- (paraphrased from the bio) The Hobbit wasn't originally part of the world of The Silmarillion, but was drawn into LOTR and The Silmarrilion over time and revision, and I wouldn't be surprised if Tolkien would agree with you about revising more, but he could revise endlessly as he was a perfectionist at heart about his Middle Earth.
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