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Old January 7 2013, 02:35 AM   #565
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Re: Do you think Star Trek needed a reboot?

DalekJim wrote: View Post
Picard is bigger than Kirk with the younger generation. The generation that the Abrams film is clearly aimed at.
You mean the generation that helped made Abrams' film a hit and never once thought "where's Picard?"

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TNG S1 is obviously shit but S3-S5 perfects the formula started by TOS as far as I'm concerned. Then DS9 took things even further and became the best Trek.

We've been taking steps back ever since until now we're stuck with Earth Trek II: Wrath of Cumberbatch. It might be a fun, frothy, forgettable movie but we really should be getting better Trek than this.
When you say stuff like this it hard to take you seriously. You come across as a petulant child who can't get his way.

Star Trek is moving forward. Using the TOS characters does not equal a step backwards.
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No one here has acted like TNG was watched by five people, it was an unqualified hit from the first episode here in the States.

No, but they have eaten up JJ Abrams' bullshit about Star Trek only connecting with audiences when it had Kirk and Spock in it. A poster even went on to call the 25 seasons of modern Trek an unsuccessful disaster.

If a new crew could take off and be a phenomenon in their own right then it could happen again. There are a whole generation of Trek fans who don't give a fuck about Kirk and Spock, yet could give you all the specs of the Enterprise-D.

If I were in charge I'd have had a new crew and new ship. Having an interesting story is way more important than cosy nostalgia for misty-eyed 40+ year olds.
Now you come across as a petulant child with a potty mouth. I don't think Abrams has ever said anything about "Star Trek only connecting with audiences when it had Kirk and Spock". I think it was the studio who decided to use Kirk and Spock, so those were the cards Abrams was dealt.

The movie was a big hit, so a large portion of the "whole generation of Trek fans who don't give a fuck about Kirk and Spock, yet could give you all the specs of the Enterprise-D" must have bought tickets. Probably more than the number of "misty-eyed 40+ year olds who saw it". The generational divide you're trying to promote just doesn't fly. The movie success it due to it appealing to a wide. That means people who grew up with TNG, 40+ TOS fans and people with only a vague idea of what Star Trek is.
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