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Old January 2 2013, 04:38 AM   #272
exodus
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Re: Did Voyager get better or worse when Kes was replaced with 7 of 9?

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First of all, I've worked in the entertainment business myself so I know a lot about what sort of business which goes on behind the curtains, not only nice things.
Business is about making profit to maintain it. It can't always be about being nice.

I don't see the dumping of Kes as a personal insult to be or the Kes fans. I see it as a cruel, stupid and unnecessary decision which they tried to cover up with vague statements. "Fury" is another story, that one was a deliberate insult to the Kes fans.
Another part of running a good business is knowing to can't please everybody. This is why producers listen to fan feed back but they can't allow all of it to affect how they run the show.
There was no reason bring back fans that may or may not have still been watching the show to begin with to "deliberately" insult them. There is no point and nothing to gain from that. What would be the purpose?
Sorry, I don't see the entire writing staff and producers all sitting around saying: "Well, we have 5 stories written. What should we go with?"
" Pulp them all, I want you to write a story that will personally and deliberately piss off Kes fans." "
"..but Kes isn't in the show anymore."
"WRITE IT!!!"
......and then they ALL agreed on it.
Highly unlikely that would waste a budget and resources on something that wasn't going to make them a profit due to further alienation of viewers. Especially since they were trying to gain more viewers by using that gimmick of bring her back, not push them away. What really happened was it was a script that sounded better on paper but ended up being poorly executed during filming. Nothing more, nothing less.

As for liking, Neelix was clearly the most disliked character on the show but they didn't dump him. Kim wasn't that popular either. So much for "fan feed back"! And if they really cared for the fans, they shouldn't have come up with such an insulting episode as "Fury".
Seems like everyone that worked on the show from Paramount, their marketing researchers and production staff all had gotten enough statistics to say differently.

So you mean that if Kes had stayed, the viewers would have abandoned Voyager. Now that is qualified rubbish! And the dumping of Kes was "for the greater good". That's actually cruel. But of course, I didn't know that Kes was the reason for all that's bad in Star Trek. Obviously it was her fault that TOS was abandoned in 1969 and "Enterprise" was dumped after three seasons. Silly me who didn't realize that.
Never mind, I see talking business economics is pointless with you.
I was under the impression we could actually have an mature adult conversation.

As for dumping Kes "for the greater good", that reminds me of certain "big political bosses" who also "dumped" people "for the greater good", for the building of socialism and who knows what. Isn't it a nice society we have created?
I don't even know how this relates to anything.
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