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Old December 19 2012, 04:09 AM   #224
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Re: The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey - Grading & Discussion (Spoilers

I may have been overstating with "Saruman is a good guy;" certainly he comes across as rather full of himself at best, sinister at worst. But he can't be too obviously subverted, otherwise it makes no sense for Gandalf to go to him in Fellowship.
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