View Single Post
Old December 17 2012, 08:12 PM   #172
Location: Great Britain
Re: MASSIVE Elementary School Shooting in CT *12-24 Maybe be dead

gturner wrote: View Post
MacLeod wrote: View Post
And no one is arguing that nations have their own problems.

But out of those violent crimes how many ended in murder?

The stats for homicide are something like US 4.2 /100 000, UK 1.2 / 100 000, Or almost 4 times higher.

So even with a higher violent crime rate, fewer people are murdered.

Conclusion whilst less restrictive gun laws might lead to a lower violent crime rate they lead to a higher murder rate.
Wrong conclusion. Look at your list again and note that there are over one hundred counties with a higher homicide rate than the US, and I doubt any of them has more guns than we do. Almost all of the Western hemisphere outside Canada, including Cuba and Greenland, has a higher homicide rate than the US. The US white murder rate is about the same as Canada.

Meanwhile this blog post was interesting.

This problem is too big for me to handle on my own. Sometimes there are no good options. So you just pray for grace and trust that in hindsight, it will all make sense.

I am sharing this story because I am Adam Lanza’s mother. I am Dylan Klebold’s and Eric Harris’s mother. I am James Holmes’s mother. I am Jared Loughner’s mother. I am Seung-Hui Cho’s mother. And these boys—and their mothers—need help. In the wake of another horrific national tragedy, it’s easy to talk about guns. But it’s time to talk about mental illness.
What do you do when your genius son is a violent ball of plotting, seething, homicidal rage?

Who said anything about the number of guns? The link I provided to wikipedia was homicide rates per 100 000 people.

And of those countries with higher homicide rates than the US how many have more restrictive gun laws than the US?
On the continent of wild endeavour in the mountains of solace and solitude there stood the citadel of the time lords, the oldest and most mighty race in the universe looking down on the galaxies below sworn never to interfere only to watch.
MacLeod is online now   Reply With Quote