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Old December 16 2012, 11:31 AM   #105
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Re: MASSIVE Elementary School Shooting in CT *12-24 Maybe be dead

Deranged Nasat wrote: View Post
I think part of the problem is that these discussions - gun control, mental health, violence - only seem to catch people's attention when we're dealing with reaction to the aftermath of a terrible crime. And that's not a good time to hold such a discussion, because distress and anger and confusion are all running high. When you're responding to something like this in the immediate aftermath, any reaction is going to be concerned with either soothing unrest and providing comfort or exploiting the unrest to some political or ideological end. Neither of those lends itself easily to a truthful examination of a society. People will latch onto the easy answers or the comfortable old debates (e.g. American gun control), and because a show of solidarity becomes incredibly important after events like this, it means the more uncomfortable issues are not going to be examined for fear of harming that sense of emotional unity.
Well said indeed, DN.

Kelthaz wrote: View Post
Such as? What else could someone use as a means of destruction that would have the same fatality rate as a gun?
Are you kidding? Does the name Timothy McVeigh ring a bell?

propita wrote: View Post
Whether it's guns or mental health as the core issue, this country is not going to police everyone to the extent that would be required to make sure it NEVER can happen again. Because that's not possible. Many of the killers aren't in any serious legal problems until they kill.
You're absolutely right. The reality is that we can't prevent all mental breakdowns any more than we can prevent hurricanes or tsunamis. They are a force of nature. But we can do infinitely better at removing the stigma of mental illness, researching mental illness and learning how to recognize and treat mental illness. Draconian measures of gun bans, curfews, pass laws, police in the schools and so on do nothing to address the issue.

I have no idea what to do, but ideas need to be brought up, discussed, discarded/attempted, etc.
Exactly. We need more knowledge. Knowledge is power.

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