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Old December 14 2012, 10:23 PM   #1033
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Re: "The Dark Knight Rises" Review and Discussion Thread (spoilers)

Flying Spaghetti Monster wrote: View Post
I preferred Rises. It adapted some of the biggest and most pivotal Batman stories,
It adapted those comic stories (No Man's Land and Knightfall)
Four, actually. No Man's Land, Knightfall, Tales of the Demon, and The Dark Knight Returns.

in a hacked screenplay that had no story to tell on it's own, rather than being inspired by other material the way The Long Halloween inspired aspects and images for Batman Begins.
Your statement is both incorrect and vague enough it could be thrown at the other Nolan films. The Dark Knight, for instance, shares many broad story beats with The Long Halloween: both detail the fall of traditional organized crime syndicates in Gotham City and the rise of costumed supervillains like the Joker, and both culminate in the turning of Harvey Dent into Two-Face.

Of course, when looked at in any detail, those similarities are just that -- broad similarities. The Long Halloween is a neo-noir crime thriller that is itself largely inspired by Mafia films like The Godfather; The Dark Knight, on the other hand, is in essence a story about how societies choose to cope with asymmetrical threats like terrorism when they are tempted to abandon the social compact and resort to authoritarianism, and about how that temptation can corrupt the soul. (It is also, by the way, in large part inspired by [i]The Killing Joke.)

The Dark Knight Rises is clearly inspired by those four storylines, but it's its own entity. The Dark Knight Rises is in essence a story about the danger of extreme inequality -- about how it gives rise to government-condoned corruption on one hand and enables tyrannical pseudo-populist movements on the other, and about the obligations of those with power to share their power and help their fellows. It is a film about how elite fear and disconnect harms others, about how formal structures can become just as tyrannical as the anarchy they seek to oppose, and about how one must accept and them move past fear of loss in order to create and preserve a society worth having. It is about the necessity of sacrifice.

I'm sorry you didn't see that, but it all seemed pretty obvious to me.
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