I don't have Halo 4 yet but I was at my sister's house to play it with her kids and they were setting it up on a new console for the first time and it was ridiculous. You have to install 4 gigabytes onto your hard drive just to play multi-player??? We spent a damn hour trying to get it to work and never did. Even after that excruciating 15 minute download then we couldn't get the gamer profiles to work even though we weren't trying to go on XBL and just play on the console ourselves! WTF!