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Old November 27 2012, 04:38 AM   #55
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Re: TOS set during the 22nd Century!?

Timo wrote: View Post
If Trelane had been looking at the 12th/13th century, he wouldn't have known about Napoleon or Alexander Hamilton, been able to quote a Christopher Marlowe play ("Is this the face that launched a thousand ships..."), or been able to play harpsichord sonatas by 18th-century composer Domenico Scarlatti and a Johann Strauss waltz composed in 1880.
All this happened after Jaeger had speculated that Trelane was viewing the universe through a lightspeed lens.

So Jaeger could have been wholly incorrect in his speculation all along - or then the new evidence fits the speculation perfectly but also helps establish where Trelane's mobile planet has recently been (that is, much closer than 900 ly from Earth).

If you're talking about the pods then the whole ship would have to rotate since the pods don't form a complete circle.
The pods could rotate while the ship was static - the whole point is that there is room there for a full circle (in fact, two full circles), and beyond that, it's just a matter of balancing. But the thing is, we know the pods did not rotate, yet there was gravity there. And yes, it was there even before our heroes arrived, as Khan wasn't secured in any belts yet hadn't floated away from his mattress, either.

Also, Ceti Alpha =/= Alpha Ceti.
Star Trek is infamous for its use of "cropped" stellar names, such as "Omega" or "Beta". It would make sense that our heroes already know which constellation or corner thereof they are dealing with, and for that reason use shorthand expressions.

Thus, "Ceti Alpha" is in fact something like "Omega Ceti Alpha", in which the final "Alpha" in fact is the phonetic alphabet letter A and indicates the primary component in a wide binary.

Timo Saloniemi
Trelane's planet could move and outpace a ship at warp. It's not too much to believe that he saw different time periods simply because he was different distances from Earth. He just didn't take that into account and he ended up with a mish-mash of time periods.

Regarding the Botany Bay, I could accept that the whole pod assembly rotated if the main hull were cylindrical but it's not. Besides we saw the outside of the ship at times we knew people were on board and it never moved. I just go with the explanation from The Slaver Weapon, a flying belt was found in a status box and provided the basis for artificial gravity. Let's just say it was found on the moon and we had artificial gravity well before impulse or warp drive was a gleam in anyones eye.

It makes a lot more sense for Ceti ALpha to be a short form for a longer name as you suggest as opposed to it being the same as Alpha Ceti just reversed. Kirk referred to Cochrane being from Alpha Centauri after all, not Centauri Alpha.
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