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Old November 20 2012, 05:38 PM   #14
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Re: The Agonstic Prayer

J. Allen wrote: View Post
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J. Allen wrote: View Post
I don't need an agnostic prayer.
I'm an agnostic.
I understand that completely but you have to remember that many agnostic and atheist come from religious background and one of the charges leveled at us by the religious is that we lack in moral values.

We have to show that religion was a first attempt at morality but later secular philosophy can do it much better. Many in the developed world are agnostic, atheist and freethinkers and our numbers are growing based on the census taken every decade.

Secular Humanism is the future. But we do need to show that we do have a moral center as well.
5 years ago I was an Evangelical Christian minister. I get the whole idea, but I don't need a prayer. I don't think agnostics need prayers. What good does it serve?
I guess the distinction is whether you are a religious agnostic, like Emoborg or an agnostic atheist, like you, J (at least, that's what you seem to be, correct me if I'm wrong!). For a religious agnostic, admittedly, a philosophy I have trouble understanding, I suppose there could be some worth in prayer. I don't really think praying necessarily displays any kind of moral center, though, and if you're praying just to show you have a moral center, well, isn't that worse?
Matthew 6:5-6:6 wrote:
And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by men.
But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father, who is unseen.
I would advise the OP that if he wants to show that he has moral center, to live kindly, honestly, and productively. Religion is not necessary for morality, and neither is prayer. "Two hands working can do more than a thousand clasped in prayer."

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