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Old November 10 2012, 07:30 PM   #48
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Re: What happened to the Romulan Empire after Romulus was destroyed

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If you take 0,02 rate of growth per year, then every romulan couple has to have 3 VERY SPECIAL children per 30 years:
Every single one of these children must survive and each have 3 children.

If you take into account hazards such as pioneering, catastrophe, lack of resources, deaths, not finding mates, not having 3 children, etc then every romulan couple has to have at least ~5 children per 30 years (a few "spares").

Which raises the problem: how does a colony manage to feed/educate/etc a population 3 times as numerous as the preceding one, every 30 years?*
Not by building ships and going somewhere where there's no infrastructure.
And not by having magic tech (as Kirk's childhood colony - and every other failed colony in trek) proves.

Oops. Looks like there's no beating that petri-dish.

They don't have to be like bacteria to have a massive population. You do know that a sextillion is, say, a million times more than a quadrillion right? They could be the most unfortunate species in the galaxy, suffer all the catastrophies possible, and could easily reach the quadrillion range.
Actually, they DO have to be like bacteria to have a massive population - well fed bacteria, that is.

And no, they couldn't be the most unfortunate species in the galaxy and reach the quadrillion range.
All it takes is for the average romulan couple to have 2 children - or less.
That's it for population increase.

PS - Easily? Within the confines of the trekverse (as presented) or the real world - well, that's laughable!

In fact, the more they spread out on other planets, the less impact any kind of catastrophy would have on them. And you keep bringing up human history, like the Romulans are going to suffer from bad teeth, influenza, no food, stroke and heart attacks due to obesity, chicken pox, scarlet fever, mumps, malaria, amscesses, and other 20th century diseases that can be prevented in a society that uses science.
Not these diseases.
But many others - with similar effects, demographically.
Many of them mentioned in trek canon.

EmperorTiberius - in trek, populations suffer from the same "gremlins" human populations suffered throughout history - regardless of 'colonies' or any other hand-waving you would care to use.
Again, many - most - of them mentioned in trek canon.

You think it not realistic?
Well, fantasy science replicators or transporters are not realistic, either.
You can't pick and choose what you consider 'realistic' and what not (well, you could, but it would make your posts worthless).

Your estimates of 40k are laughable.
During history, many colonists/lineages/populations suffered from a far worse fate - number of descendants: 0.
US has had a growth rate between .9 and 2% for the past 100 years. Are you saying people in US grow unrealisticly like bacteria? Are you saying that advanced Vulcan technology in hands of agressive, expansionist Romulans woudn't be able to match this type of growth?
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