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Old October 24 2012, 12:20 AM   #110
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Re: Is TOS the best sci-fi TV American series until 1985?

Grant wrote: View Post
Yes, the Invaders episode better than 99% of TOS episodes because it's little spacemen and they turn out to be from Earth. it's a twist!

It plays out very logically as well from beginning to end.

Seeing how they land on this planet and find one structure in the middle of nowhere and decide to torment this giant haggered woman.

Roddenberry could never have come up with something that good!
Exactly! Glad you see my point!

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It is classic, it's a suspense piece and super well-done, but it could never hold up to the kind of scrutiny that virtually every episode of TOS is put thru.

Humans going light years to another world and finding it inhabited by a giant race and then going to her shack and shooting her with their ray guys?

What kind of logic is that.

It's a viseral piece of fantasy TV that is ridiculous in retrospect.
I'll see your logic test and raise you "The Immunity Syndrome," where Enterprise squares off against The Solar System Sized Ameoba OF DOOM!

Compared to that, "the Invaders" is viagra-hard science fiction.

'I Shot an Arrow'--astronauts take off from earth, crash land and ASSUME they're on another world--even though it has the same atmosphere, gravity and landscape as California? And they're in a rocket not a starship that would make them a least think another star system. They think they're on an asteroid--with the same gravity as Earth?
And in response I offer "Wolf in The Fold," where the chief engineer of this wonderful sci-fi series of starring and trekking is possessed by - wait for it - the ghost of freaking Jack the Ripper!

'Where is Everybody' astronaut goes bonkers after 136 hours in isolation? Really? Literally thousands of humans have been in solitary confinement for months and come out sane. An elite astronaut goes bonkers after 6 days? Man they made a poor choice--he sure had the wrong stuff. They even said he had access to entertainment tapes. Shoot, I could survive for a couple of weeks with my Blu-ray collection and no company.
Prisoners in solitary get one hour a day out in the open air. An astronaut in a gemini-sized capsule wouldn't. Who knows how important that one our of outdoors is to someone with no human interaction?

They're great, thought-provoking dramas, but great sci-fi?
I thought the definition of great sci-fi was thought provoking drama in a speculative setting?
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