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Old October 22 2012, 02:56 AM   #548
blssdwlf
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Re: TOS Enterprise WIP

Robert Comsol wrote: View Post
blssdwlf wrote: View Post
"Actually, we do not know that Deck 8 is in the Engineering Hull.
We just know in "I, Mudd" that the Aux Control Room is on Deck 8."
Fair enough. But then please forgive my inevitable question where you are going to put it in your plans / cutaway?
At this time, I do not have a firm location. There are lots of rooms to be built out and when I fit it all together, I'll post it up

Robert Comsol wrote: View Post
blssdwlf wrote: View Post
"Some items to consider: ... When Scotty and co descend down the ladder, we do not know what intervening decks they passed through to appear in the engineering room's upper level. They do not exit from same type of ladder they descend in."
As it appears the turbolifts on the Constellation don't work, therefore the landing party has to use ladders instead. But Scotty does exit from the same type of ladder when he reappears: They climb down http://tos.trekcore.com/hd/albums/2x...hinehd0206.jpg and Scotty surfaces later in the exact same section: http://tos.trekcore.com/hd/albums/2x...hinehd0238.jpg
You correctly noticed that he uses the ladder at the beam-in point to go to and return from engineering. What I'm saying is that when Scotty uses the ladder to go to engineering, he appears in engineering but the ladder is no where in sight. This tells me that we do not know how far the ladder took them down and what additional corridors, ladders, and crawlspaces they took to get to the engine room. Without that knowledge, we do not know where the beam-in point is.




Robert Comsol wrote: View Post
Since the bridge of the Constellation has been destroyed and there is severe structural damage to the saucer hull (both TOS and TOS-R) I'd find it rather difficult to imagine that what we see here takes place in the saucer. This would imply that Scotty and party descend from deck 5 to the upper level of the engine room, but Scotty has to come back up to deck 5 - only to climb down again the next minute to deck 8 where they finally arrive at the Auxilary Control Room which seemed to be a place they needed to go anyway to find out what happened: http://tos.trekcore.com/hd/albums/2x...hinehd0253.jpg
You may find that hard to believe, but that appears to be exactly what happened. Visually, only the areas of the primary hull near the rims were damaged and exposed to space. The "entire bridge" was damaged but having the "core" areas of the primary hull intact is very reasonable given the evidence. Remember in the dialogue going to "Auxiliary Control" was Scotty's idea and it appeared to be an afterthought.

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