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Old October 20 2012, 04:22 AM   #93
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Re: There's a trailer apparently.....

serenitytrek1 wrote: View Post
teacock wrote: View Post
serenitytrek1 wrote: View Post
there are people even saying the film secrecy is over the top because the film sucks.
Who exactly is saying that? Some haters on livejournal?
No...it was trek fans who post comments on articles wriiten on trekmovie.com
Surprise, surprise.

Transwarp Drive wrote: View Post
I'm aware of this notion that the film absolutely stinks, I think it came from an interview with Quinto where he allegedly tries to distance his performance from that of the material he was given to work with, there was also some reporting around diva like behaviour on set; can I source it? No, I just know I've read it. The same can be said for the talking up of Cumberbatch's performance rather than the wider footprint of the movie.

So I wonder if that's the real issue, the film absolutely stinks?
M'Sharak wrote: View Post
Transwarp Drive wrote: View Post
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So I wonder if that's the real issue, the film absolutely stinks?
Got you covered on the "diva" item, which was discussed here previously:

http://www.nationalenquirer.com/gues...tar-trek-divas

(Note: The National Enquirer is a US-based trash tabloid with a decades-long tradition of inventing gossip about whichever celebrities or situations they figure will sell the most issues for that week.)

I'm not aware of any Quinto interview matching that description, though.
Well, the Inquirer thing could be anything, including a complete fabrication. Really, the only three people that make sense would be Quinto, Saldana, and/or Pine. Both Urban and Pegg have been in movies (and I know MI:GP was a hit), but I wouldn't say that they are "bigger stars" now because of them. For now, I'm just going to assume that this "report" is fake.

On the Quinto thing, it was probably this interview. He mentioned that it's in the hands of JJ and the writers/producers, etc., right now and that making a film is an "enormous collaboration," which is true. I think the part people might be talking about is this:

ZQ wrote:
We really do just sort of stand where they tell us to stand... but it's not all about us.
I think that's a very healthy take on things, but it does sound like "we did our jobs, now it's time for them to do theirs, and anything that happens now is up to them." It's not exactly distancing, but it goes back to what he said, that it's a collaborative effort and it's not all on the actors. Then you also have Cho doing an interview where he says the film "may be magnificent," lol. It's a nice statement, but it doesn't exactly inspire confidence. People will see soon enough.

Transwarp Drive wrote: View Post
M'Sharak wrote: View Post
Transwarp Drive wrote: View Post
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So I wonder if that's the real issue, the film absolutely stinks?
Got you covered on the "diva" item, which was discussed here previously:

http://www.nationalenquirer.com/gues...tar-trek-divas

(Note: The National Enquirer is a US-based trash tabloid with a decades-long tradition of inventing gossip about whichever celebrities or situations they figure will sell the most issues for that week.)

I'm not aware of any Quinto interview matching that description, though.
Cool, cheers.

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The Quinto thing, I think, was a series of posts on Trekmovie in response to an interview he did a few months ago, the general jist being he was seen to be distancing himself from what had taken place during filming. The overactive imagination of a few fans? Or a darker, deeper and more significant meaning?

Either way, I have a very weird feeling about this movie, bad publicity now could kill the box office and, ultimately, the franchise. I want to think it'll be fine but the complete news blackout seems to be covering something, good or bad.

Is JJ due a stinker? It happens to the best of them.
Okay, hopefully I can do you a favor here and just let you know that sometimes the comments section at websites is not the best place for you to draw your conclusions. I'm not trying to say anything too negative about anybody, but I know for a fact that that particular sight (at least when I was there) was not a bastion of moderate posting. Since that was the first Trek community I encountered (thanks to Google), I didn't know until much later that this was more the exception and not so much the norm. There's literally a little gang of people there that try to drive off anyone that disagrees with the main views held there. So, FWIW, I'd take that comments section with a LARGE grain of salt. This could be true for anywhere to be fair.

teacock wrote: View Post
Trekmovie is not that big that a search on key words would find it soon enough.

I'm suspecting Quinto said something humorously and a bunch of drama queens in the comments section went on a jag about how it sounded like he was distancing himself.
Probably. I just remember laughing because it sounded like "if anything's wrong with this film, don't blame the actors," but of course I didn't think he was saying that the film "sucked." That would be a stretch.

Jackson_Roykirk wrote: View Post
Meh. To me it sounds like he was just looking for a way to worm his way into promoting the indie films he producing, probably looking for distributors or other producers.:

"Far more fulfilling, Quinto said, are the projects he is producing such as last year's critically heralded indie 'Margin Call'."
I mean, he's at a film festival, and he is a producer of indie films. Indie film producers are perpetually in search of distributors (or money in general), so of course he is going to try and use this article as a way of promoting his production efforts. I don't blame him.

He was speaking to "The Wrap" magazine and a judge at their indie film festival. He was considering the audience. He wasn't speaking to "Star Trek Magazine".
Yes, but he's been inaugurated into the role of "Spock," which he must learn is a lifetime commitment. That can be great or it can the equivalent of a roach motel. If being an actor hasn't taught him that "anything you say, can and will be used against you in the court of public opinion," then some Star Trek fans will, lol.
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