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Old October 15 2012, 06:54 AM   #70
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Re: TNG Characters in the JJ-Verse

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They believe that certain things are fated to happen, regardless of if it makes sense. They even said that time tries to repair itself, which is basically mumbo jumbo for fate, not determinism.
Orci: "For all those decrying fate, there is actually a quantum mechanical basis for the “fate function” in this film that we have discussed previously. In a multiverse where, as Data once said “anything that can happen, does happen, in a parallel universe…” there is a probability (a number) associated with each possible configuration. Those events that are most probable are theorized to occur more often in more similar universes. Thus, the idea that Kirk and Spock and Bones come together is merely an indication that the probability assigned to such an event is very high in the multiverse. Some may mistake this for blind fate."
If he's referring to the Many Worlds theory, the probability should be 100% and therfore fair game for a movie. Abrams can point the camera anyplace he chooses, and with infinite parallel realities from which to choose, any sequence of events a screenwriter can think of will be happening somewhere, for him to film.

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I'm afraid not. The problem with Orci's "explanation" is that the JJverse was not a universe chosen form a near infinite number specifically because it matched what the writers intended.

It’s a universe that was, of course, based directly on the prime reality, but was then significantly disrupted. The normal result of that is to almost certainly make the events that happened in the prime universe less likely, not hasten their occurrence (in the most implausible ways possible)!

That means there is therefore nothing about the JJverse that implies a 100% probability that Kirk and Co will get together. In fact the opposite is obviously true. You would need to believe in fate or some form of Pantheism perhaps, for what we saw to actually occur.

Or as Ryan8bit responded, rather more succinctly, to Orci's excuse: "That is, of course, total hogwash.". I could have sworn he said "BS".

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