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Old October 14 2012, 07:07 PM   #55
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Re: Did we ever see anyone vote in the Federation?

Christopher wrote: View Post
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You just need enough people to count the votes to return a result within a day or less.
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And again, what is your rush? What is wrong with the idea of taking the time to be sure the results are trustworthy? It's not like the winners have to take office by the end of election day or something. There's naturally going to be a period of transition between election and inauguration. So no damage is going to be done if it takes an extra day or three to collate and verify the results. And plenty of damage could be done if the process were rushed for no good reason.
In our real 'verse, Canada is itself possibly paying for a rush to vote-count judgement right now. The results of several dozen federal ridings in the most recent national elections are under question at the moment, partly due to concerns over "robocall"-induced voter suppression. The investigations and court dates are not yet over and done...and that's just for a planet-bound nation of 35 million.
I watched the Supreme Court case on CPAC, the parliamentary/public affairs channel. Challenges of certified election results are extremely rare in Canada, winning a judicial overturn of an election result are even rarer, it has only happened five times in 145 years.

Result challenges of this kind do not have a normal appeal procedure. Challenges of the result due may be heard by the Federal Court (a small court, actually) or the Superior Court of a province (the workhorse, heavy-lifting courts that do most serious things around here). An appeal goes directly to the Supreme Court in Ottawa without a stop at a provincial court of appeal.

When I watched the Supreme Court arguments, I knew exactly what the problem was. Same-day additions to the Voter List with insufficient documentation. The voter needed to provide photo ID or two pieces of ID with a photo and address between them, or be vouched for by another voter.

The vouching in particular has rules that you have to be on the list in that poll (300 people) and can only vouch once. Then you have to fill out documentation on amendments to the voter's list, and on vouching. All of this then gets entered in the Poll Book. Lack of complete documentation here left doubt as to whether the voter lived in the poll, proved their identity or their voucher were themselves ineligible to vouch. Oh, did I mention if you vouch you have to swear an oath?

Some DRO's and Poll Clerks got hasty and didn't do their paperwork. The result was sent to the Supreme Court of Canada. As I watched the case, all I could think was "There except for the Grace of God go I" as I was doing the same job on the same day. This case will come up in election staff training in the future.
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