View Single Post
Old October 10 2012, 08:07 PM   #19
Hound of UIster
Rear Admiral
Hound of UIster's Avatar
Re: Statistical Breakdown of Middle-Earth...

Kegg wrote: View Post
Yes, because if there's one thing we know for certain, it's that telling the stories of female characters in a pseudo-medieval society is extremely boring... or wait, the exact opposite of that.
You don't seem to understand that many of these fantasy tropes were yet to be developed or were in their infancy at this time. Most of the material emphasizing female warriors came from the S&S side of the fantasy genre derived from the pulps of that era.

This is true, but the one gender imbalance that I noticed and found curious is that, while there are far more humans overall, there are more women hobbits mentioned than human women.
Because the lives of the hobbits are more fully described compared to that of the Dunedain, Dwarves and Elves. The background details of the Dwarves/Elves/Humans are more devoted to their history, theology and technology than to any personal details other than Aragorn's biography in the appendix.

The 1950s were a different time
But by then Tolkien had already finished LOTR.

but they were not somehow so different that Tolkein is in any way progressive, and stories with warrior women have been written literally for centuries prior to Tolkein. And frankly the only female character worth mentioning either way is Eowyn, as the rest have very little to no development.
And much of these same warrior women stories were derivatives of one another. Many of them were one stock character and Tolkien developed Eowyn -from them. It's only later in fantasy fiction that we see the current abundance of female fantasy archetypes and stock characters.

It just seems to me that you problem with him is that you want Tolkien to write with current sensibilities when that clearly isn't possibly.
Hound of UIster is online now   Reply With Quote