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Old October 10 2012, 11:46 AM   #23
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Re: TV Ratings - October 1-7

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I don't understand why CBS has decided to kill the Mentalist with that time slot.
I don't watch the show, but I've heard fans complain about how it has become really bad lately with the Red John plot, whatever it means.
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Patrick Jane's aka "The Mentalist" had his wife and young daughter killed by a serial killer known as Red John. Jane has been working as a consultant for the California Bureau of Investigation consulting on cases, but the recurring story has been him trying to capture/kill Red John. Red John seems to have a cult following and he leaves clues for Jane, sends decoys, and a whole bunch of other random stuff.

It's REALLY hard to follow if you haven't seen almost every episode. I saw all of Season 1, but have become a casual viewer since then, watching the occasional episode with my mom. It's become too heavily serialized for it's own CBS good!
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I don't understand why CBS has decided to kill the Mentalist with that time slot. The same thing happened to CSI:Miami. Contract disputes?
No, its one of the few shows on CBS that isn't produced by CBS. Thus they earn nothing besides its initial run, since a good chuck of the profit of a series is its off market syndication run and to a lesser degree home market revenue, CBS has to give better slots for shows produced by CBS to thrive to get those syndication and home market dollars , like for example the Good Wife.
I thought I was the only person who disliked the Red John serial. The problem for me is that Jane catching Red John means he goes to jail for killing Red John. He actually did that, except they finagled an excuse for it a) not to be the real Red John but a decoy and b) an excuse for him to get out of jail on grounds the decoy was actively committing a crime in holding a girl prisoner in his basement.

This is by my lights a terrific example of the self-disembowelment so typical of open-ended serialization. They can't just drop Red John because he's the reason why the mentalist is even there. Jane is only a semireformed criminal after all, law enforcement is not his natural milieu. Additionally Red John has semimagically planted a fake fiance on female coworker Van Pelt, whose angst over his betrayal hasn't been satisfied by killing him. The show is toying with her being an abusive cop. This is simultaneously too far fetched (Red John recruits from the FBI etc?) and too realistic (abusive cop.) Etc. Etc. Etc. They're toying with having Jane grow beyond the need for vengeance.

But kill Red John or merely arrest him, when Red John's fate is decided the overall storyline is over. Hence the interminable delays while Red John's abilities grow ever more god-like. By now a Red John reveal would be pretty much like showing us the real Satan. Anything is pretty much doomed to be a disappointment.

CSI was sent to Wednesdays not just as a move for strengthening Wednesday but more as a move for putting Person of Interest in a cushy slot. CBS will gladly settle for a huge audience with a slightly lower proportion of 18-54 but it's still trying to develop properties like Person of Interest. There are apparently a lot of militantly ignorant fucks who fear that old age will crawl out of the screen if they aren't watching trendy with the young stuff. Hence, The Mentalist was moved to Sunday also because CBS hoped the antihero version of Holmes on Elementary would go down better with the younger set.

As I recall, the pilot was touted precisely for raising that demographic. This isn't the first time CBS has cleaned out some relatively successful shows in pursuit of favored demographics. Shows like Beverly Hillbillies were not canceled for low ratings.
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