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Old October 3 2012, 12:38 AM   #65
Set Harth
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Re: How did the Nero, his crew and ship escape Rura Penthe?

Timo wrote: View Post
it's clear the writers (of the movie or the comic) never paid much thought to how it would work out.
In fact, nothing could be less clear. It works out fine on its own wihout rewrites.

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the less of this half-hearted "intent" we have to take into account
What makes it "half-hearted"? The ST canon policy? The aversion of fans? There is nothing half-hearted about it. It simply is what it is. The three relevant locations are intended to be three separate locations, not one location: 1) in Romulan space; 2) at the edge of Federation space near the Klingon border; 3) in the RNZ.

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The one thing that is useful for all models of explanation and apology is placing all the action in the smallest possible volume of space.
That is only "useful" in the sense of self-fulfilling circular logic. This is not a story where all the action is assumed to take place in a small volume of space. Because of warp drives it is not required to be. Red matter black hole time travel involves travel in spatial location as well as in time, as depicted in the film.

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This helps with making the supernova destructive despite the destruction supposedly moving at a slow pace
That requires no "help" in the form of locations being rewritten; the supernova destruction is not a problem if we assume it to originate near Romulus. As I said, Romulus appears to be the only notable system destroyed by the supernova. Comparable Federation losses, which we might expect if the Hobus location were moved to a border, are conspicuously never mentioned.

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it helps with Spock being in a hurry despite flying a fast ship
Actually, Spock would then have to cover a shorter distance than what was alleged in, say, the novel. That aside, Spock being in a hurry is another thing that does not need to be helped. Spock would be in a hurry if he's going from Vulcan to Romulan space.

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If they were at any significant distance, Nero wouldn't get to Vulcan in time
This really makes no sense. Given the timeframe of the film Nero has plenty of time to get to Vulcan sometime the next day.

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not in a ship that fails to get from Vulcan to Earth before our heroes
This is a misstatement of the film. The Narada does get from Vulcan to Earth before our heroes; we see that in the film.
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