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Old September 15 2012, 12:07 AM   #321
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Re: VOY: The Eternal Tide by Kirsten Beyer Review Thread (Spoilers!)

Scout101 wrote: View Post
You're right, Kristen DID comment on it. Believe it was the notes at the end of The Eternal Tide, essentially stating that she wasn't pressured or influenced into having Janeway return, and to please not view the return in that light, but that she did it for her own creative reasons. (Paraphrasing, don't have it in front of me)

I read that as her being worried that people would think that things like your boycott and 'buzz' influenced this decision, and wanting to disuade people of that notion...

And directly responding to your posts isn't the same thing as people "still commenting on it". You said something, i responded to it. Didn't create some big movement that's in people's consciousnesses, and we're still buzzing over the impact.

Either way, that was kinda the minor point in my post, in favor of the bigger part you didn't seem to want to address. Janeway was more a part of Full Circle (and treated better) than in the Spirit Walk books before, but no protest to her being shunted aside and being useless there. Why not? Didn't miss her then, but kill off (with the obvious Q out that was there, even) a character that's alternating between not being used, and used badly, and it's end of the world? Were you ENJOYING Janeway's story before her death?

And the boycott was kinda all over the place anyway, when the people that have chimed in so far have said they read them all anyway, but maybe got from the library instead of buying, or got from used book store. I applaud the purchasing of several copies of TET to attempt to use your wallet to show approval of the return, but suspect the couple extra copies will have about the same impact as the refusing to buy the last couple books until now. That is to say, little to none. Suspect TPTB will just see it as approval of how Kristen has been doing all along, as believe her numbers for all the books in this run have been pretty good.
Here Scout I am quoting your entire post to me since it seems to bother you when people reply without quoting.

Thanks for applauding me and my wallet! That's great to know.

Now to the bolded (by me) bits. I have said from day one I was protesting her death, that she was a minor character in Spirit Walk etc.. was not an issue to me. If she becomes a minor character in the rest of Relaunch from this point on is not an issue to me, I recognize that Relaunch has gone in a lot of directions that include new characters and not all characters get a major role in it. I have said many times that if they give her a desk job I will be content just to have her alive and back in Treklit land. That is ME, I don't speak for everyone. Saying that my agenda is not worthwhile because I didn't have a previous worthwhile agenda (protesting her lacklustre appearance in previous relaunch) just doesn't make sense to me.

It also does not make sense to me that you even care about my boycott which you have gone out of your way to tell me was useless and made no difference to anyone.

btw when I said that Kirsten commented I meant in these threads, and in the VOY forum thread where she came in and asked directly for feedback and questions about the future of Voyager relaunch. Had no one ever said a damn thing about Janeway being killed do you think she would be posting in the VOY forum to us and asking for feedback? She noticed there was a reaction from a segment of fandom and she very nicely engaged that segment of fandom in discussion. So yes, the boycott was noticed a helluva lot more than if no one had given a damn that she died.
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