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Old September 13 2012, 11:51 PM   #66
King Daniel Into Darkness
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Re: Does the Federation still exist in the 31+th century?

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KingDaniel - if you're watching the episode, care to quote Daniels' exact line about the number of federation members? - it's not timeline specific. On the other hand, it's specific regarding the relative number of members.
ARCHER: The Federation. You've mentioned them before.

DANIELS: Vulcans, Andorians, Ithanites (sp?), Klingons. Dozens of species, including humans. All unified in a powerful alliance.

And - Daniels doesn't talk about the Procyon time-line as of a dreamland what if. Quite the opposite. "Momentous event in history", etc.
Yes, but in the same speech he talks about alternate futures. Alternate timelines in Trek are not "dreamland", they're differing versions of history - just look at "Mirror, Mirror", "Parallels", STXI etc.

A few episodes later, we hear the Sphere Builders discussing the shifting futures... (from "Countdown")

SPHERE BUILDER: The time lines are in constant flux. Many of them favour the primates and the arboreals. Some even favour the humans. Unless that's the outcome you desire I suggest you find a way to launch the weapon.

Also - whatever could be verified about what Daniel' said in the 22st century was verified.
In "Storm Front" he implies that Earth no longer exists by his time. Then in "Shockwave" we find out future-Earth is his base of operations.
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