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Old September 7 2012, 08:52 AM   #28
Brainsucker
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Re: (Idea) Interprise goes Andromeda!

Maurice wrote: View Post
Brainsucker wrote: View Post
But well, it's up to you if you don't like my idea. I have already write my point here. Prolonging the debate will only make a counter productive result for both of us, because I have already explain everything here
You explanation doesn't matter because your concept is in itself flawed.
Well, flawed or not, it's all depend to individual perspective. Plus, flawed concept can be repaired, but repeating concept has no novelty in it.

Takeru wrote: View Post
If you don't care about exploration of the territory and only about going to places where no one has gone before, wouldn't that mean your proposed idea would only work for a single adventure? After the pilot they've already been in the Andromeda galaxy, using your logic it's now boring, humanity has already been there.

You're wrong btw, going to a new galaxy will not refresh Star Trek, what will refresh Star Trek is good writing and good ideas and there's nothing they can do on another galaxy they can't do in our own. The gamma and delta quadrants are almost completely unexplored, we don't know much about the beta quadrant and even the alpha quadrant has large unexplored parts.
I agree that good writing and good idea are the one the can refresh Star Trek. But it's not enough, unless you're talking about a novel. There are other things like the screen play, directing, acting, etc that also influence the story. But look at what our discussion here. We are talking about the idea, not about writing, screenplay, directing, acting, etc. I'm not writing a script or novel here, just throw an idea. And like any idea out there, flawed idea can be repaired. But, refusing a new idea is a different matter.

and about the logic, I think we talk about the setting of a new series, not a new episode. So I don't think that my logic is flawed. Unless... well, you can't understand what I was writing completely (because my English is suck and hard to be understood by readers), so forgive me for my flawed writing skill if that it. Nevertheless I'm rarely use English in my RL.

jgalley wrote: View Post
This won't work honestly. and wouldn't last if they tried.

fact is there is not enough trek fans to sustain a series on their own....it needs to entice people in general......

Andromeda would be to out-of-place for the average viewer..they'd be disconnected because the show isn't even in OUR galaxy anymore.

not to mention I don't think jumping that far forward is a good idea...the tech in TNG/DS9/Voy era got a little crazy to begin with.....so how would they be able to come up with anything believable to be a threat? The tech would just be too crazy. Having them out-matched tech-wise got old in Enterprise..so it certainly wouldn't work here either..

being set in the andromeda galaxy MIGHT be interesting to existing trek fans...but personally I don't like the idea of a giant station-ship that relies on other things to protect it..too much going on. And many would look at it as "This is stupid, the station-ship is boring..I want to see what <destroyer a>'s crew is doing and is like..forget the lame station..it can't even defend itself"

if we have a trek set in the future I don't think it should be (personally) too long after TNG....just enough to have all new crew/etc but not so far ahead in tech that it's silly.

regardless your idea, flawed or not, just wont' work for average viewers...which is what the majority has to be for a series to stick around and work.

plus..as said..the main problem was the writing..not the setting
I got your point, and I like your comment.

About the big station ship idea is actually come from the US CVN (Carrier) and their Carrier Task Force. But because there are already Battlestar Galactica with space fighters, I think it is not a bad idea to change it with bigger role, a station ship that can be docked by an escort or light cruiser type star ships. But maybe you prefer "Galleon / Frigate / Ship of the line" concept rather than the modern navy concept. Well, everyone have their own preference.

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Ok, now I understand. Star Trek is not about exploring the galaxy, or meeting new Alien, boldly gone where no man has gone before. But Star Trek is about a big ship (well 15th - 18th centuries ships in space) with captain and her bridge crews, cruising around the stars and meet Klingon, Romulan, Vulcan and another existing factions. So, why are you refusing "Galactic War / Galactic Political Turmoil" ideas and insist that Star Trek is about "Trek" ?

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