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Old September 5 2012, 09:09 AM   #60
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Re: Why isn't Internet free for everyone yet?

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Or it could be that they appeared right at the end of the dotcom bubble and didn't have a sustainable business model. I used to use Juno. It was horribly slow and filled with pop up ads.
Yes, exactly. It wasn't greed that killed the free services; it was speed. I had some experience with Juno and I could barely stand to use for anything other than checking my email once in a while. Since they weren't charging for their service, they didn't have the money to run a fast, high-capacity system (which costs money, contrary to the belief of some in this thread). Their business model was to get money through ads rather than from subscribers. In effect, subscribers paid for their service by suffering through ads rather than opening their wallets. However, the advertisements weren't very productive, so they couldn't charge much for it and therefore they didn't have much money. People left them because they got sick of all the ads and because the service was so horrible they couldn't use it for anything productive. Basically, the business model failed.

As to the original question, the reason there aren't free ISPs anymore is for exactly the same reason. Providing the service isn't free. The internet doesn't just run itself and provide a pure profit stream for ISPs. It costs money to build/maintain/upgrade the networks and to keep them running. Someone has to pay for that. Currently that's paid for by subscribers. If you want free internet, you need to find another source to pay for that.
I remember Juno. I actually preferred them over NetZero (though they were owned by the same company), though I payed the $9 a month premium service, which wasn't bad at the time!

There were a few decent dialup ISPs at the time that were also offering services for $3 a month, though they limited you to 200 hours a month, which was more than enough for most people.

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I'm as socialist as they come, and even I agree this is kind of a dumb question.
I used to be a socialist, Then reality hit me. As Winston Churchill once said "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery".
Which is nothing more than a bunch of bullshit.
Churchill also thought India couldn't govern itself.
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