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Old September 3 2012, 07:02 AM   #160
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Re: Is the Federation a True Democracy? And How Did It Reach That Poin

CoveTom wrote: View Post
I could argue a great deal with what has been said here about the US system of government. Suffice it to say, I think Sci is factually wrong on just about every single assertion he/she has made.
He. I have the "Male" symbol sitting right there on each post.

OneBuckFilms wrote: View Post
1. I apologize for misstating them. But prohibitions and limits are different things, are they not?
Not if you don't establish greater context. You gave no indication that you were looking for more than the standard prohibitions on government infringements on individual rights.

3. Factually incorrect. The recent PPACA case in the supreme court actually establishes that there ARE limits on Commerce Clause power, and the Necessary and Proper Clause do NOT, in FACT, give virtually unlimited power.
Of course there are limits. But we also shouldn't pretend that the old "reserved to the states" thing is anywhere near as relevant to modern life as the Founders intended -- nor should it be. The states simply are not as separate from one-another as they once were, and it's silly to pretend that that rule is anywhere near as relevant -- or ought to be anywhere near as relevant -- as it once was.

RE: Trampled rights.

It is not explicit, but implicit, that there should be a balance in some fashion. Electoral College serves that function.
"Balance" of what? Allowing a minority of people to decide the president is not balance. It's just undemocratic, period. Nor does it protect anyone's rights -- because the rights of the minority are not violated if the candidate they did not vote for becomes president.

OneBuckFilms wrote: View Post
2. Let me know what your research reveals.
No, that's not how this works. You've made the assertion, now it's your obligation to back it up. If you don't want to do that research, then you are morally obliged to withdraw your assertion.
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