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Old September 1 2012, 06:42 PM   #32
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Re: Why isn't Internet free for everyone yet?

gturner wrote: View Post
So in your utopia, nobody has a job and nobody has any money. Admittedly, we're getting there, but people don't seem to like it very much.
Utopia is a misconception that doesn't exist.
It implies 'perfection' (which again doesn't exist) and stagnation.
You may think it's 'perfect' because it radically differs from what we have right now, but its not.
We are transitioning into an 'emergent society' and will end up eventually in a resource based economy (its not 'perfect' or 'utopia' by any stretch of the word... just a lot better than what we have now).

The only reason people might not be satisfied with automation NOW is because we still live in a system where money is used as means of survival (let alone doing anything else) and they were brainwashed by Hollywood to perceive technology as something bad that will turn on us and destroy us (this is the single most ludicrous thing I've ever heard in my life - Arthur C. Clarke also mentioned something along the same lines).

Within our current (capitalist) environment, we require jobs in order to live - without them, you are as good as dead.
Point is, it doesn't have to be like that.
We can free humans from this stupid idiocy for work (we had the ability to automate a great deal of things a century ago and need humans for few operational purposes and maintenance).
We can focus on creative tasks and actual problem solving.
Unleash technology for betterment of mankind (instead of to its detriment like it has been done).

Eliminate money from the equation, provide every person on the planet with relevant general education, and access abundance, and you will see a radically different attitude.
Also, with a global population which is exposed to relevant general education (critical thinking and the tendency to question everything and be problem solvers), the prospect for being used or manipulated dissipates, as does a moronic tendency for 'people in positions of power' or 'governments' - and in turn you can effectively have an entire global population being comprised of 'renaissance men and women'.

Projecting failed systems of the past into something new is a manifestation of fear - nothing more.
Opposition will occur once Capitalism crashes.
Its up to us to choose something better that will benefit everyone (and not just the select few).
We are who we choose to be but also have predefined aspects of our personalities we are born with, and make art that defines us.

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