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Old August 2 2012, 02:18 AM   #56
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Re: Is the Federation a True Democracy? And How Did It Reach That Poin

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The District of Columbia does have a mayor and city council, but the US Congress maintains supreme authority over the district and may overturn local laws.
And that's a deeply oppressive, un-democratic system that needs to be abolished -- hence, for instance, House Republicans' attempt yesterday to pass a federal law that would ban women in the District of Columbia from seeking an abortion after 20 weeks, with no exceptions for the health of the woman or for cases of rape or incest.

If there's one thing the U.S. does which the Federation should never imitate, it's the practice of denying equal rights and an equal vote to the citizens of its capital. It's nothing less than tyranny.
I will say that the District of Columbia should be entitled to a self local government that isn't answerable to a body that is elected by people outside of their constituientcy and usually changes every two years, yes.

If that means making them part of Maryland/Virginia respectively then I don't see the big deal.
The big deal is that we're not Marylanders. (The territory from Virginia that D.C. once included was given back to Virginia in the 19th Century.)

And if you make us part of Maryland, then you end up doing the exact opposite of what you just said -- you take away our right to self-government that isn't answerable to a body elected by people outside our constituency. All you've done is made D.C. answerable to the Maryland General Assembly instead of Congress.

I am against them getting full benefits of statehood, mainly representation beyond what they have in Congress.
There is no representation in Congress. We get a Delegate to the House who is allowed to vote in committee and not on the floor. This is not representation; this is a joke.

And meanwhile, we outnumber the population of the State of Wyoming. Tell me, why is Wyoming entitled to representation in the Congress, but not us? Why is Wyoming entitled to statehood, but not us?

And the supposed justification for denying D.C. a voice in Congress -- that we're too small in number -- wouldn't even apply in the Trekverse, where United Earth constitutes an entire planet, plus more. Surely one can't argue the UFP should deny United Earth representation in the Federation Council, or its own government within the UFP.
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