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Old May 5 2012, 09:22 PM   #20
horatio83
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Re: Age of Majority / Voting Age in the Federation

robau wrote: View Post
Of course, we should let go of the idea of the Federation as utopia. The Federation is not a utopia, it's just more progressive than what exists today.
Whether or not it actually is, it is presented as utopia. That is undeniable.
"Journey to Babel" is the first time you see the Federation in a concrete form and those bitching ambassadors certainly do not create the impression of an utopia. As Sci said, Trek portrays a more progressive world than our own but certainly not a perfect one.
Which is by the way a key difference between reactionary and progressive folks, the former believe that the best world has already been achieved whereas the latter view the path as never-ending.
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