Oh believe me, I understand what they're going for...just since it is Johns and we've discussed the issues in Justice League with his writing, it seems like he is going overboard with it. I understand mistrust and hesitation like I said, but there was a comment from a dude standing outside of his door and mouthing his dad's funeral is today, he has to come out. I thought that was a little bit over the top. I dunno. I just don't like this particular aspect of the book. Their attempt at "edgy" feels forced to me.