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Old February 9 2012, 06:37 PM   #1025
Hartzilla2007
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Re: Star Trek Online Discussion Thread (now free to play!)

Timelord_Victorious wrote: View Post
In other news: When you log in the next time, you will be able to use any special console from +1 ships (T1-T4) on any ship.

This is absolutely the final nail in the coffin for PvP for me.

I tried a match yesterday and I was disgusted by the console abuse the Klingons are already capable of in their BoPs, now everyone will be using it until PvP is really dead, because no one has fun anymore...

I guess Cryptic didn't sell enough conso... I mean ships.


Sorry for the rant.
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As some of you may know, I'm an ardent PvPer... Yet due to the widely considered overpowered consoles the Klinks have recieved (and the fact a lot of them can be equipped on a BoP), I've not bothered to queue up for an FvK match for a while.

If suddenly you can have cloaking Fed escorts using anti-matter spread, tanky Odysseys using photonic displacement (and ablative armour), it'll mean FvF, my last respite for a good fight, will become just as much a P2W fest. Which, like for Thafool, will mean the death of PvP for me.

Now, as I said, I'm PvP crazy... So this has seriously pissed me off. I mean, I knew PvP was never high on the lists(more near bottom), but this is just insane.

Now, if they were to make it so the P2W consoles didn't work in PvP, I'd be jumping for joy. Hell, I'd bet people who only do a very casual bit of PvP will be jumping for joy.
I'm just going offer condolences about something coming that will suck for you and hope you can find something new thats fun to do.

But honestly and I don't mean to offend anyone but I never really so the draw of PVP. Imean your just fighting five guys over and over again and accomplishing absolutly nothing, it kind of gets boring after a while. Which is why the fighter thing was fun it was something different and kind of fun seeing as it equalized things a little where as in regular PVP its exeperts blowing newbies up oer and over again which can be a turn off.

Then theres the fact that the idiotic DS9 rehash war storyline which makes no since at this point in the story is only continuing so they can have PVP, the T5 connie controversy caused somewhat by the bitching of whinny jerkass PVPers* as well as anal trekkies (a match made in hell as far as I'm concerned), the fact that their persence on the game forums is basically the jerkasses (the same guys from the T5 connie thing)* of the group doesn't really help either and probably contributed to most people avoiding PVP (well except the connie thing).

*I'm sure most PVPers aren't bitchy jerkasses who insult anyone who dosen't PVP at EVERY opportunity but those are the ones that apparently post on the forums.

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Blamo wrote: View Post
Now, as I said, I'm PvP crazy... So this has seriously pissed me off. I mean, I knew PvP was never high on the lists(more near bottom), but this is just insane.
I don't think that's a completely fair assessment. Many of the STO devs are ardent PvPers. I'm not saying they aren't screwing the pooch with this change, but it's not because nobody cares about PvP. The fact they're not very good at balancing it doesn't mean they hate it.
Honestly I think it may also have to do with the fact that from what I can tell the majority of players PVE so they may focus more on where the majority of the cash keeping them running is coming from, much like how klingon content is slow to come as I believe there are more fed players.

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