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Old December 24 2011, 05:46 AM   #545
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Re: THE HOBBIT (2012/2013): News, Rumors, Pics Till Release

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what's in Tolkien's work should be reflective of what was possible in Europe circa 7,000 BCE. And tobacco and potatoes were no more possible in Europe circa 7,000 BCE than were express trains.
Were Balrogs and magic invisibility rings possible in Europe circa 7,000 BCE?

Allyn Gibson wrote:
(Also, since you edited in Merry's theory, it doesn't actually work. According to the maps, there was no equivalent of North and South America prior to the sinking of Numenor and the change of the world from flat to spherical. Without the Americas, there no place for tobacco and potatoes to come from.)
How can Merry's theory not work in-universe, as a theory of where pipe-weed comes from? To put it another way, given all the other changes in understanding that would be required in order to interpret the past of Arda as actual prehistory, wouldn't the true origin of tobacco be relatively minor by comparison?
Tobacco existed in ancient Europe, but the hobbits smoked it all.
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