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Old December 10 2011, 04:15 AM   #50
AdmiralScreed
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Re: Does It Get Better???

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Do you take Trek seriously because it contains a moral/ethical message or do you watch Trek because it's entertaining that just happens to have a moral/ethical message?
I enjoy Trek for both of these reasons, although the moral/ethical messages have had a strong impact on me. That's part of the reason I enjoyed TNG and DS9 so much. There were many episodes that either reinforced my principles or added to them. One of the dilemmas that has come up continually in Trek is the rights of the many vs. the rights of the few. This is a dilemma that has been around for ages, and it still continues to surface in today's world. Trek has presented me with new ways to look at this issue. While I don't have a solid stance on this issue yet (it's very situational), it is something that I ponder over quite often. There are numerous other moral dilemmas that come to mind when I think of Trek. While VOY has presented some of its own moral/ethical messages, for the most part the plots seem based more around scientific concepts than philosophical issues, which is contrary to TNG and DS9 to a little lesser extent. That's not necessarily a bad thing because it's still an enjoyable series. I just don't feel like I'm taking a lot away from each episode. There's a lot less to think about.
That was the point of Voyager, too bring in an audience that found previous Trek to cerebral. The biggest complaint among non-Trek fans is that's it too talky and boring. Being that it was UPN's flagship show the idea was to make it more action adventure show rather than a thinking mans show. Should everyone have to be highbrow to understand a lesson of morality and ethics? Wasn't Trek meant to seen by the mass audience and not just the limited Trek fanbase? Just like TNG was geared to introduce Trek to an audience after our parents generation, Voyager was made to introduce Trek to our kids.
A Trek show to appeal to the masses......hmmm......I was too young to have watched this show when it was on the air in the 90's, so was Voyager popular with mainstream audiences at the time? Considering that it lasted 7 seasons, I would guess that it was.

On another note, since last night I have watched Elogium, Non Sequitur, and Twisted, all from season two. Here are my thoughts on each one:

Elogium: Absolutely abysmal. A ridiculous plot and a boring message about having children. Kes and Neelix were both fairly annoying in this one. 2/10

Non Sequitur: A great parallel universe episode, and so far my favorite Harry Kim episode. 7/10

Twisted: Two great episodes in a row. This episode featured some terrific character moments; Neelix asking Chakotay about jealousy, the disagreement between Tuvok and Chakotay, Janeway expressing her pride in Ensign Kim, and more. I also found the scientific concept to be quite intriguing, and I enjoyed the ending because we discovered that the anomaly was just an alien lifeform trying to communicate and learn about Voyager and her crew. 7/10
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