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Old July 2 2011, 07:40 AM   #40
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Re: The Prime Directive

Mr. Laser Beam wrote: View Post
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They have president which represents all the Federation worlds and not a prime minister.
But Earth's own government appears to be mixed. United Earth is a parliamentary republic - a President as head of state, and a Prime Minister as head of government. This is wholly separate from Federation governmental structure, which has a President as both roles. (Delegates from Federation worlds, Earth included, are Councillors.)
I'm as big a fan of including info from the novels as anyone, but we should specify here that the President of United Earth, Prime Minister of United Earth, and representatives of Federation Members being called "Councillor," are all from the various non-canonical novels published by Pocket Books.

For the record, Pocket has established that each Federation Member gets a single Federation Councillor; the manner in which that Councillor is chosen is determined by the Federation Member in question. Andor, for instance, has their Federation Councillor chosen along with the rest of the Andorian Cabinet on the basis of which Andorian political party wins a majority of seats in the Parliament Andoria, while Betazed's is popularity elected. When Bajor joins, its Federation Councillor is appointed by the First Minister with the ratification of the Chamber of Ministers. Etc.

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They have president which represents all the Federation worlds and not a prime minister.
But Earth's own government appears to be mixed. United Earth is a parliamentary republic - a President as head of state, and a Prime Minister as head of government. This is wholly separate from Federation governmental structure, which has a President as both roles. (Delegates from Federation worlds, Earth included, are Councillors.)
Yeah but there are no politicians.
Absolute hogwash. There will always be politicians, because there will always be a need to make decisions as communities. As long as that is necessary, there will be someone or someones making decisions on the community's behalf. As long as civilization itself exists, there will be politicians.

The Federation has its own set of base laws with only some "traditional" and cultural respective planetary laws still in effect.
Actually, the evidence seems to be that Federation Members all retain their own local governments with a great deal of autonomy within the Federation's wider political system. The Federation is, after all, a federation.

Also, we've seen Federation politicians. Spock's father, Ambassador Sarek, is clearly a politician. (Diplomacy is a form of politics.) The Federation Presidents seen in Star Trek IV, Star Trek VI, and DS9's "Homefront"/"Paradise Lost." And, frankly, every time we saw Picard or Sisko take a stance that affected larger policy -- from Picard defending Data's rights as a sentient being in "A Measure of a Man" to Sisko persuading the Federation to go to war with the Dominion in "A Call to Arms" -- we saw our own Starfleet heroes being politicians. Politicians, after all, are not inherently horrible creatures or some sort of awful thing. Politicians are simply people who have chosen to make the question of how power ought to be distributed within society their profession.
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