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Old March 23 2011, 05:50 AM   #457
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Re: Typhon Pact: Rough Beasts Of Empire review thread

Rush Limborg wrote: View Post
BTW...some people have compared (I would say unfairly) to the CIA or MI6. I'd say it's more akin to the fictional IMF of Mission: Impossible ("If any of your team are caught or killed, the CIA will disavow any knowledge of your activities", etc.) or Area 51.
I'd say that if Area 51 were real, it would constitute a pretty horrific violation of U.S. law and democracy.

Frankly, the idea of keeping war free of "war atrocities" is fallacious. War itself is an atrocity. Making it clean and neat takes away the incentive to end it as quickly as possible.
Yeah, bullshit. Refusing to commit war crimes doesn't take away the incentive to end it, it's an attempt to protect the innocent during a war.

And, yes, there are many innocent Founders, as established both in the series (Changeling infants) and in The Dominion: Olympus Descending.

As "The Man Trap" indicates, it's not immoral genocide if it's in self-defense.
Oh, bullshit. It wasn't genocide to kill the Salt Vampire because the Salt Vampire species was already functionally extinct. Yeah, there was one member of that species still alive, but it was never going to be able to reproduce anyway, because there was no one else left to reproduce with. So it wasn't genocide in any realistic sense, because realistically, the species didn't exist anymore. You can't commit genocide when you're too late!

And, no, genocide against a real, viable species (or socially defined grouping) is not justified by self-defense.
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