Char Aznable wrote:

People keep bitching about messages and heart and intellect when XI really wasn't any dumber than most of the Trek moves we had so far.
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Yeah, I wouldn't say it didn't have as much heart or anything like that, but it didn't seem to have as strong a theme as some of the others. And that's probably because they were trying to cram so much in. Hopefully the second movie will have a stronger one.
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but getting away from Trek's awful pretentious preachiness and exclusionary (is that a word?) attitude was a GOOD thing. Star Trek was always meant for the general public to consume, even as far back as TOS. This is anb objective fact.
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Being preachy or heavy handed doesn't really equate with failure since Avatar was hugely successful.