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Old November 8 2010, 02:45 AM   #44
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Re: Some speculation about the Romulans and the Borg invasion

Christopher wrote: View Post
kkozoriz1 wrote: View Post
Spock's line is meant to mean that there's 10,000 Vulcans (as opposed to Romulans) left altogether.
No, it was meant to convey an emotional impression to filmgoers. In a Q&A on in May 2009, screenwriters Orci & Kurtzman stated that the "10,000 Vulcans" figure did not include offworlders; it referred only to those who'd escaped the planet itself before its destruction.

That Nutty Fanboy: What happened to off-world Vulcans? The lines in the movie indicate 10.000 survivors overall, which seems rather low for a space-faring species Ė especially that very likely have off-world colonies.. or was the 10.000-line pointed towards survivors escaping Vulcan itself?

BobOrci: True. Letís just say then that the 10,000 does not count off worlders!

Why else would he say he's a member of an endangered species? If China were destroyed would a surviving Chinese citizen claim to be a member of an endangered species if there were still 5 billion other humans left?
He very well might, if he were as emotionally distraught as Spock was at that point (though he'd more likely say "endangered race," keeping in mind that ST treats species as analogous to ethnic groups). Again, keep in mind the concept of the unreliable narrator. It can justify Nero's "last of the Romulan Empire" line, and it can justify this line.

Has there been any mention of Vulcan colonies that weren't in the TNG timeframe?
Yes. It's called Romulus.
"Let's just say?"` That sounds like ass covering after the fact.

If we`re going for the unreliable narrartor to explain away the odd lines, does that mean that we have to be prepared to do the same for Spock and Spock Prime through the rest of the movie? Was Spock being truthful with his emotional moment with Uhura? Was Spock Prime telling NuKirk the truth or was he telling him a line of baloney in order to get him motivated to take command from Spock and stop Nero?

Is America a colony of Great Britain?
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