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Old October 1 2010, 01:34 PM   #87
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Re: Favourite Bond films....

The Borgified Corpse wrote: View Post
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As for the Daniel Craig films:

I like Casino Royale but I think it's way overrated. It's excellent whenever it's doing its own thing but grinds to a halt every time it goes back to the poker table. Still, every director in the business needs to watch the opening chase sequence to see how to do a chase sequence that's exciting AND completely comprehensible. (I'm looking at YOU, Paul Greengrass & Peter Berg!)

But I hate Quantum of Solace. To me, Daniel Craig isn't James Bond. He's a dour, joyless thug and I have no desire to watch him. I'm sure it's not his fault. I think he's being intentionally directed that way. Still... ugh! Plus, Quantum is filled with all of these contemporary references to the shitty current world situation. It can't go more than 5 minutes without reminding us that we're running out of oil or that our governments are in league with unsavory dictators or that global warming will destroy everything! I prefer my Bond movies, even at their grittiest, to be escapism, not An Inconvenient Truth.
Yes but it isn't like Bond hasn't reflected the world situation at the time, just off the top of my head:

the man with the golden gun talks a lot about the energy crisis, relating to the OPEC stuff going on at the time.

A View to a Kill with the whole silicon chip nonsense!

The Living Daylights featuring the Soviet occupation of Afghanistan/the opium trade.

I am pretty much the only person in the world who likes QoS though
While contemporary world crises may have provided a thin backdrop for earlier 007 movies, they didn't talk about them a lot and they never bogged things down. But it seems like Quantum of Solace just can't ease up enough to make it fun. A lot of that comes from the Bourne influence I think. The Bourne films have this ponderous, liberal-guilt emphasis on constantly pointing out how shitty things are.

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I'm sure no-one will agree with me, but "Goldeneye", "World Is Not Enough", and "Die Another Day". Great expansive big budget action movies.
While that's not exactly my list, it's a list I can get behind. I can't say enough good things about Goldeneye & The World Is Not Enough. And I even think the 1st half of Die Another Day had the makings of one of the greatest Bond films ever (until it overloaded things with invisible cars, rocket cars, killer space lasers, & that weird cyborg suit that the bad guy was wearing).
But things are shitty

Goldeneye is a very good film, TWINE for some reason I really dislike. I just find it very bland and colourless, with a non too great Bond girl and a lame henchman (Renaud isn't the badguy, Elektra is, she's great but he's rubbish) And don't even get me started at the pre title sequence. Seriously you go to all that trouble planting a bomb to cleverly kill King, then you station a woman on a speedboat bristling with guns outside MI6 HQ. Why exactly? I think that hit me stright away and the film just never recovers.

Die Another Day is a seriously underated film, for me it only loses it on the Antanov at the end. Invisible car I can live with, but Toby Stephens (who is a magnificent villain) in a robot suit is lousy. Plus tired of the American Bond girls, I really wanted Rosamund Pike to kill Halle Berry

diankra wrote: View Post
OK, my three:
Casino Royale, Living Daylights and For Your Eyes Only.
BTW, it's interesting how many people commenting in this thread are pro-Daylights, even though it's currently coming in 7th-ish. (Siomilarly FYEO, which is a bit further back).
7th is pretty good for a film not usually regarded as a classic. Sometimes I wonder if my view is coloured by the fact it was the first Bond I saw at the cinema but if you break it down it has most everything, the only real flaw for me is that Whittiker is a poor bad guy (oh and Leiter sucks!) but that aside...great Bond, great girl, great characters; Koskov, Necros, Pushkin, lovely score by John Barry and ace stunts.
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