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Old June 4 2010, 01:51 AM   #428
Brutal Strudel
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Re: Where did Spock go?

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1984 - Kirk "You fool, look around you! The planet's destroying itself!"
Kruge "Yes, exhilarating, isn't it?"
Kirk "If we don't help each other, we'll die here!"
Kirk "Perfect! Then that's the way it shall be!"

Kruge falls down and over the ledge. Kirk tries to help him back up, Kruge grabs Kirk's leg.

Kirk - "I... (Kick in the head) have had... (Kick in the head) enough of... (Emphatic Kick) YOU....."

KIRK: This is Captain James T. Kirk of the USS Enterprise. Your ship is compromised. Your too close to the singularity to provide assistance, which we will provide.
SPOCK: (to Kirk) Captain, what are you doing?
KIRK: You show them compassion may be the only way to earn peace with Romulus. It's logic, Spock. Thought you'd like that.
SPOCK: No, not really. Not this time.
NERO: (on viewscreen) I would rather suffer the end of Romulus a thousand times. I would rather die in agony than accept assistance from you.
KIRK: You got it. Arm phasers, fire everything we got.

(Dialogue taken from two sites.)

I'm still rather confused why some people are so on 2009's Kirk killing Nero when he was pretty much dead, while no problem with 1984's Kirk killing Kruge when it probably would have been an easier rescue than for Nero? Maybe it's just because it's cool to hate...
Incorrect analogy. Kirk had offered Kruge assistance and Kruge then tried to kill Kirk by dragging him over the cliff with him. Kirk killed Kruge out of self-defense, plain and simple. Had he not kicked Kruge in the face repeatedly until Kruge let go, Kirk would have died and so would Spock (again) and probably McCoy, too. Nero, on the other hand, was defenseless and powerless--all he had left were the lunatic ravings of a man who had lost everything. Kirk choosing to stick around long enough to unload on the Narada was nothing but an act of childish spite, one which put the Enterprise in jeopardy. Now, had Nero locked a tractor beam on the Enterprise or sent out a couple of those Doc OcK grappler chains to snare her, you'd have a point but he did not and you do not. Thanks for playing.

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