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Old March 24 2010, 03:23 PM   #104
Luther Sloan
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Re: Unpopular Trek Opinions What Are Yours?

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That's not in any way similar and you know it. Star Wars was the first "chapter of the novel".

No. It says "Episode 4" in big bold lettering in it's opening crawl. Plus, if you were to watch the behind the scenes SW stuff, it showed how Lucas had written some basic stuff for the previous chapters, too.

(now called New Hope)
No. It says "A New Hope" right on the new special edition DVD cover.

(Not to mention that the SW prequels are awful, while seasons 2 and 3 of DS9 most certainly aren't. And even season 1 is not nearly that bad, certainly not so much to be compared to Phantom Menace...) It introduced the characters. It started the story. Lucas just went back a few decades later and made some inferior prequels.
It doesn't matter if the prequels were awful or not. Which by the way I can understand where you are coming from. I think the prequels were nowhere close to the awesomeness of the Original Trilogy (but still watchable on occasion). Anyways, the Prequel stories were roughly thought of from day one. We just didn't get to see those chapters of the story yet. And just because we liked the characters better in the Original Trilogy doesn't discount the fact that there was three chapters (that we didn't get to see) from day one.

I would not.
One of the greatest things about DS9 is following the characters and their development from season 1 to season 7. It's not like TOS where you can just pick any episode out of order and watch it.
...And I would agree. In fact, I never suggested that you should watch Deep Space Nine randomly. I suggested to watch it from the Season 3 cliffhanger episode "Adversary" and then continue on into Season's 4-7 where the heat of the story really starts to pick up, just like Episode 4: "A New Hope" did.

These are some of the most awesome episodes of DS9 in my book. Duet is in fact still my #1, and Necessary Evil and Second Skin are in my top 5 or 6 episodes.

In the Hands of the Prophets
Necessary Evil
The Maquis
The Wire
The Jem'Hadar/The Search
Second Skin
The House of Quark
Improbable Cause/The Die is Cast
Duet was a good episode. I will admit that. But in my opinion, (which I am sure a lot of other folks would agree) it still pales in comparison to ton of other episodes in Season's 4-7. Not that you should adhere to popular opinion or anything.

In the Hands of the Prophets, The Maquis, The Wire
The Jem'Hadar/The Search and the Second Skin were mildly entertaining to just okay in my book. In fact, I really don't see these episodes being hailed as the best of Trek. But we each have or own personal likes and dislikes (Which is neither right nor wrong of course).

The House of Quark, and Improbable Cause/The Die is Cast were really good. But I still think that the beginning episodes "you have to drag your feet thru" can lose a viewer, though. Sure, they may be great to you. But I have found people don't like slow moving story lines as much as they do faster paced ones. Now, if I knew that person was into slower moving dramas... then I probably would recommend them to watch the series from the very beginning then.

Also, Crossover is the only decent Mirror Universe episode DS9 produced (even though I have some problems with it as well) - while the later ones got more and more awful.
Crossover was good. I also liked In A Mirror Darkly a lot too (which was in the 3rd Season as well). But to me, the mirror universe episodes were the best episodes in the first three seasons. Granted, I also really enjoyed "Whispers" and "Visionary" a lot as well.

Very well done, exciting, well paced, presents many of the show's themes very well... although it's a bit too focused on Sisko.
Cool. I am glad you enjoyed the DS9 trailer.

Side Note:

Oh, and I created another thread on this topic so we can continue to engage in this fun little conversation of ours.

Hope you like.

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