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Old August 3 2009, 04:26 AM   #90
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Re: Superman and Batman to join forces with Islamic superheroes

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Yes, a gay, atheist, radical Superman is 100% interchangeable with the traditional values "truth, justice, and the American Way" Superman....:rolleyes
Yes, since being one does not exclude the other.
If you really beleive that, there's no point arguing with you.
The America I believe in was found on the proposition that all men are created equal. Therefore a radical, gay, atheist Superman could stand for truth, justice and the American way. These are not the sole purview of straights, the religious and reactionaries.


He was a sensitive swashbuckler/circus performer raise by a gypsy sorceress. No hint of any religious affilation out side of the occasional "Gott En Himmel!!!"
Explain how that PRECLUDES said affiliation.
Seems odd that a man raised by gypsy sorceress, who takes the Lords name in vain would be a devout Christian. It was pretty much out of the blue. Sort of like Bruce Wayne saying he was gay



That is the tragic "end state" Magneto. Without the life experiences of his youth (in the camp) and early adult life (with Magda), he would not have become that man.
Thats Magneto from X-Men #1. And pretty much every appearence till Claremmont decided to give him a "tragic" backstory.



1602 was years ago. Contemporarily, only the 616 universe's Nick is white. All the other Nicks are portrayed as black.
Again where are all these Black Furys? I mentioned 1602 becuse that was the first Alternate Fury I could recall,


Hey you brought up Ultimate Nick as an example of a character being changed. IIRC Ultimate Nick has been black from the get go and 616 Nick is still white. So like I said, what else you got? Do you also onject to Ultimate Wasp beeing Asian? The Ultimate line is an alternate-universe. And Ultimate Nick isn't a legacy. Neither was the E-1 Hawkman, when first created. He was a re-engineered take on the concept, jut as Ulitmate Nick is.
No, because that is AU, WHICH IS NOT WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT...get that through your head. We are talking about changing CORE characters.
All caps? Do you really think that helps you make your point? Or lends it more weight? Or does it make you look like a child throwing a tantrum?

Again you brought up Ultimate Nick as an example of changing a "core character." If you wnat to back way from that feel free.

So what CORE character has been changed?
So far, none, but that isn't stopping Galactus and his ilk from pushing for it.
His "ilk"? Dude, its just comic books.
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