God damn, Orci and Kurtzman are hacks.
Well to be fair to them this time, they apparently had to rush this story through before the writer's strike last year. Bay just started filming a bunch of random shit til they got back -- which, from the sound of it, is VERY obvious in the final movie.
Yeah they certainly aren't the strongest writers out there, but I just watched Trek again last night, and their dialogue and characterizations are a LOT richer and more sophisticated than people give them credit for.
It's just the plotting and science
that they seem to have a problem with.