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Old June 10 2009, 05:55 PM   #6
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Re: The Borg, a defence

john titor wrote: View Post
The Borg aren't so bad. They're more logical and evolved than the federation.
Logic is not a virtue in and of itself. The Holocaust was perfectly logical -- the Nazis hated the Jews and wanted a way to exterminate them without expending too many resources during wartime; starving them nearly to death in camps and gassing them was a logical solution to that "problem." Logic is only virtuous when it serves virtuous ends.

And there's no such thing as being "more evolved." That's like saying that one building is "more built" than another. Evolution is not a linear thing with superior vs. inferior species; it is simply the process by which species adopt traits that benefit their ability to survive and reproduce. Intelligence is just another adaptation.

And, yes, the Borg are so bad. Their entire "culture," such as it is, is built around violating the rights of sentient entities, engaging in the crime of aggressive war, conquest, and the invasion and subjugation of others' minds. Their entire goal in life is to gain power over everyone else rather than respect anyone's rights.

Example "your archaic and authority driven cultures yadda yadda." The borg are so advanced that they have grown out of the need for a direct hierarchy. We can regard the Queen, if we want to at all- seeing as the real borg was that shown in the TNG series, as a physical manifestation or managing node of the collective will.
Nonsense. If anything, the Borg are more authority-driven than any other culture we've encountered, because they cannot abide the idea of any species not under their control exists; everything either has to be assimilated or exterminated to their mind. They're the most megalomaniacal, power-hungry force in the entire Trekverse.

So in the borg there are no pretences to irrational belief systems, authority or exploitation.
The Borg are all about gaining "authority" over every lifeform they encounter, and assimilation is the perfect definition of exploiting someone against their consent. And, yes, the Borg even possess their own irrational belief system, given their reverence for the Omega Particle.

All that exists is a unified consciousness emergent from its component parts. While you may sacrifice your individuality you become part of a greater whole of which you are a part, in essence the greater whole becomes you as you aren't distinguishable from it.
Which would be fine if membership in that unified consciousness was voluntary; it is not. That emergent consciousness tends to force itself upon others, violating their minds and enslaving people without their consent. It's the single most authority-driven, slavery-driven culture in the entire Trekverse.

The problem for the borg was that they failed to understand that assimilation should be voluntary, although it was irrelevant to them.
That's a pretty damn big problem. That's like saying the Nazis were okay except for that war and genocide thing. It's a defining trait of theirs to disregard the rights of others in order to enslave them.

I would liked to have seen a star trek episode where people volunteered themselves for assimilation, like cult groups.
It would have made for an interesting premise.
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