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Old June 6 2009, 05:33 PM   #75
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Re: That's not MY ship...!

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RegentWorf wrote: View Post
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I'm still pleasantly amazed at the number of refit elements that made it into the Abramsprise. Someone's been doing their homework when, really, they had every right not to. I appreciate those details. It might also imply that if the timeline is indeed changed, Abrams Trek is at a technological and engineering level that's above TOS but approaching the movies, therefore technology is slightly more advanced.

Anyway... I want to like the Ambassador. I really do. A midway design between the Excelsior and the Galaxy makes sense, but ultimately the ship feels like it really was designed as if the Galaxy came first and then trimmed down with a few Excelsior elements here and there. It doesn't feel like a true vessel in her own right, but rather just a slightly polished kitbash, in my opinion. Almost there, but not quite fit to carry the mantle of the Enterprise.
Have you seen the original painting by Probert of the Ambassador class? I feel it's a much more elegant ship than the one we got. It looked quite Galaxy-like, but I really liked it.

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I do like Probert's painting, but the "real" Ambassador has a utilitarian feel that I appreciate. I don't see why both ships can't exist in the "real" Starfleet.

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That said, I've always liked the refit Enterprise. I grew up on TNG as well. And I like the -D. I also like the -E though. When people say they made modifications to the -E after First Contact, is it just those additional weapons?
No, they also angled the nacelle struts up several degrees so the nacelles have more clearance over the saucer, and "blended" the saucer into the secondary hull around the shuttlebay. See here.

Personally, I like the strut changes and the addition of a rear upper torpedo launcher on the spine (which I suppose was probably there in "Insurrection" based on where a certain torpedo came from during the battle in the Briar Patch), but everything else is 'meh.' It's like the Akira having so many torpedo launchers; it doesn't need them, really, and the ones on the E are in really weird places for me, tacked on like turrets which IMO just doesn't work.
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