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Old March 17 2009, 02:17 PM   #157
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Re: Titan: Over a Torrent Sea (SPOILERS)

Baerbel Haddrell wrote: View Post
The confrontation between Lavena and Riker was very interesting and gave good insights into both characters. It seems even in the present-day Star Trek universe there are human families that are more prudish than others. Being a German living in England I can see that there are some general differences in attitude and maybe it is realistic that such differences in human society didn`t disappear. Therefore I shared Riker`s criticism of Lavena`s irresponsible neglect of her children but not his view about her sexuality. She is an alien after all and that she likes having sexual experiences with several partners is perfectly fine in my book if nobody is harmed by it.
I'm glad to hear that, because you got what I was going for.

Compared to Lavena Riker was the extreme at the other end. I don`t share a lot of his attitude but I can respect and understand it. I am not a man but I think I can understand that it was more difficult for him than it would have been for a naked female captain stuck together with an officer who was for a short time a lover. It starts with it that it is a fact that men react stronger to looks than women do. The vast majority of porn is aimed at men and not at women. Also a naked man can`t hide being sexually attracted. In spite I rolled my eyes a bit at Riker`s prudish attitude I couldn`t help feeling very sorry for him. His frustration and embarrassment was very understandable. That Riker was not very well, that his wife could give birth at any moment and that Lavena didn`t help at all to defuse the difficult situation only made matters worse.
First off, I don't think it's true that men react more strongly to appearance than women do. There was a terrific New York Times Magazine article recently about sexual attraction and response in women, indicating that it's a lot more complicated than that. If anything, women respond (at least physiologically) to a wider range of visual erotic cues than men do. But female sexual response, and the relationship of physical arousal to mental desire, is more complex and multifaceted than in the male, so it appears.

And I wouldn't say Riker's attitude is prudish. He's always had a healthy, open attitude toward sexuality. But he's a married man who believes in his monogamous commitment, and he's defensive about it because of the circumstances -- being separated from his wife at a critical moment, being alone and unclothed with a woman he finds very tempting. His overreaction to Aili's sexuality is not about prudishness per se, it's more about fear -- the fear of losing Deanna, the fear of letting her down. He already feels guilty about not being there for her as she's about to give birth and is potentially in danger. So that intensifies his sense of guilt at being attracted to Aili.

I agree that Dr. Ree was not responsible for his actions and that it is very unlikely that he will enter this extreme “guardian mode” again. What he did was frightening but on some other level also very touching. I also understand now that Dr. Ree must love children very much. My guess is that being rejected by the females of his own kind he decided to be a doctor so that he can help children and their families. I can also understand better now that what happened between Deanna and him was not only traumatic for her but also much more difficult for him than I realized. In spite of what happened I can see that Dr. Ree is a good person and he would be a good father if he ever gets that chance. I think both sides have learned important lessons and I would like it very much if Dr. Ree will continue to play a part in the upbringing of the little girl in future books.
Thank you for that. This was just what I meant to convey.

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It was mentioned somewhere in the book that Picard could have defeated the Borg if he had just used a deadly computer programme... Was that a hint at "I, Hugh"? I haven't watched that episode for ages, so I'm not sure but it's the only episode I can think of featuring some kind of conflict with Picard...
Yes, it was a reference to "I, Borg."
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