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Old January 27 2009, 05:15 AM   #142
Temis the Vorta
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Re: Lost 5x01: "Because You Left" & 5x02: "The Lie"

Des was unstuck in time because he executed the Swan Failsafe and then got time-flashes after that; isn't that a logical explanation for his special status?
That seems like a likely differentiator between him and everyone else - he turned the key. But why should turning the key unstick him in time? I'd like a bit more logic to it than that - such as my suggestion that that Desmond died and another Desmond was sucked in from another timeline - not being "native," he isn't bound by predestination rules and can change whatever he likes - he can kill "his grandfather" without creating a paradox because that's not really his grandfather anyway. Doesn't have to be that exact explanation, but something that makes you go "oh yeah, makes sense."

(How did I miss seeing your post before? I just realized I posted after you once before this. Frakkin time anomalies!)

Twelve Monkeys is one of my favorite time travel stories. But yeah, it didn't do great numbers at the box office, so I may be in the minority.
And that was a two-hour movie. Having characters be helpless for two seasons is going to be a lot more frustrating. I thought that premise worked fine at a movie length, btw.

One thing to keep in mind though, is that there's a difference between "change" and "affect". Time travel with self-consistency means that you can't "change" history, but there's nothing to stop you from having an *effect* on history. It's just that your actions were always part of the timeline. So, for example, you could go back in time 100 years and invest in General Electric under an assumed name, and then return to the present and collect your $100 million. The investment would have always been part of history, it's just that you didn't know about it before.
But the writers didn't think to have you be a billionaire from the start, because that was four years ago and who plans TV shows out in that kind of detail? so they can't retcon it in now if they're adhering strictly to the one-immutable-timeline philosophy.
I dont know why people thought the soldiers where Dharma operatives, those were WWII era uniforms and weapons
They were?!? (The photo you posted looks like you might be right!)

Hey remember the Big Band music Hurley and Sayid picked up on their radio (the first solid clue that there might be something frakked with the timeline?) Now we know where that came from!

As for the Four-Toed Foot, I'm going on record now: it's Vincent!

Somebody else probably thought of that before now...

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