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Old January 19 2008, 03:42 AM   #45
Re: I don't want Star Trek XI without the Shat

Roxana said:
ktanner3 said:
Roxana said:
Bond was a dick, Kirk wasn't. Bond is British,so am I, my friends and family watch it, but I can't bear his approach to management problems "I'll just spear the leader with my blowpipe or jump out of a platform that's about to suffocate me as it rises to the ceiling"

Come on. Kirk was far more intelligent than that.
Did Bond make mistakes? Sure he did. But then again, he didn't have a Vulcan there to mind meld for secrets, nor a doctor to cure him with a salt shaker.He had to get information the way a REAL agent does. And who gives a damn about spearing the leader of a drug pin that is killing innocent people or a crazy leader who is about to blow up the world to create his own race?

"Lets see, Goldfinger who has killed many innocent people is pointing a gun at me. There is no talking to him because I have already destroyed his greedy ambition to make his gold more profitable.He employed a henchman who used his razor hat to snap people's heads.I should try and reason with him and chance getting shot."
In fact, do you understand at all why us Brits did the James Bond films? It was an abortive attempt to enter the Cold War, driven by some chap's mad ramblings, which didn't mean anything. James Bond's antics were sexist, racist and ultimately non-productive. His vision didnt align with TOS at all. It was just the Brits trying to get in on the action.
Okay, this is starting to look less like a Trek 11 thread on Hambone oops I mean Shatner and more about why you hate James Bond.I will leave it with this: When Trek reaches 21 movies with the same level of success as James Bond, give me a call.

I brought James Bond up because it's a great example of how a franchise can live long and prosper without the guy who originated a title role.Far as which is better, I like both. I don't watch movies or T.V to learn some philosophy to live my life by because to me it's all fiction.Nothing more.
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