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Trubinator June 6 2009 05:39 AM

Farscape Question
 
I have a query regarding the "splitting" of Crichton in season 3. From the way the storyline is resolved, it seems as though neither Crichton was a copy ... rather they were both John Crichton. But I've heard people argue this multiple ways ... some saying the Talyn John was the copy, etc. yadda yadda. Did the show's creators ever weigh in on the issue and say definitely one way or another?

It's kind of been a frustrating plot development for me because I'd have a hard time wrapping my mind around the idea of getting to know the real Crichton for 3ish years and then have him die keeping the wormhole technology away from Scorpious. And to have the copy live in would seem to be a hollow way to end the series. But this question never seems to get fully answered. Even Aeryn herself says she makes "no distinction" between the two.

Any light that can be shed on this would be appreciated...

Da'an June 6 2009 05:43 AM

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It's like when a cell splits by mitosis into two "daughter" cells.

Neither is a copy, they're both as original as each other.

Trubinator June 6 2009 05:46 AM

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I kind of figured it had to be something like that.

Ar-Pharazon June 6 2009 06:31 AM

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They probably left it vague so as to make it harder for Aeryn to choose which one she wanted.

But, there must have been some difference, since they decided later

So, whatever works for the plot an any given day.

Checkmate June 6 2009 06:58 AM

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They totally drove the fact home that neither were copies and both were the originals. Ask either of them and they'd tell you the other was the copy... but that's just because even they couldn't wrap their heads around what happened any better than any of us could.

In other words, up until the point of the split, they were exactly the same person. Every moment thereafter they became individuals with all the baggage that comes along with that fact. Including the "controvery" Ar-Pharazon talks about in his spoiler and the way Aeryn and everyone else feels about them.

The Mirrorball Man June 6 2009 09:19 AM

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From "Eat Me":

D'ARGO: You cloned me.
KAARVOK: Not the word "clone". Please. I doubled you. I...twinned you. Two D'Argos, equal and original. And tasty.

Trubinator June 6 2009 08:06 PM

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that makes sense ... it was just such a bizarre plotline.

RoJoHen June 6 2009 08:10 PM

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Trubinator wrote: (Post 3052513)
that makes sense ... it was just such a bizarre plotline.

It's Farscape. Bizarre is one of the main ingredients. :D

Starbreaker June 7 2009 12:31 AM

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I think it's one of the coolest plotlines to ever be on a TV show. It was way too bizarre not to love.

Mr Light June 7 2009 04:39 AM

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The show always made it clear that the two copies were equally real. The clones themselves wondered about it (Moya-John waking up with a bleeding head in that one episode), but the baddie who did it said they were equal and then Aeryn at the end says they're equal, and when Talyn-John dies he doesn't melt or anything stupid like that.

lvsxy808 June 7 2009 05:27 AM

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As Mirrorball pointed out, this question was cleared up right at the very beginning, in the very same episode the situation was introduced. So, not to be rude or anything, but frankly you just weren't paying attention.

Personally I think it's one of the best plot developments in the history of sci-fi television. I recommend the Farscape forums at Television Without Pity - they have some fascinating discussions and theories about all the shows.

RoJoHen June 7 2009 07:00 AM

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Mr Light wrote: (Post 3054005)
The show always made it clear that the two copies were equally real. The clones themselves wondered about it (Moya-John waking up with a bleeding head in that one episode), but the baddie who did it said they were equal and then Aeryn at the end says they're equal, and when Talyn-John dies he doesn't melt or anything stupid like that.

And it also allows for one of the most powerful scenes in TV, I think. The "coin toss" scene at the end of "Dog with Two Bones" if my favorite scene in the entire show.

"Do you love John Crichton? Not him. Not me. John Crichton."

BigFoot June 8 2009 07:21 AM

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Damn, I really need to watch Farscape again. While it had some really silly episodes, it also had some of the best episodes of any TV series ever.

RoJoHen June 8 2009 07:27 AM

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BigFoot wrote: (Post 3057370)
Damn, I really need to watch Farscape again. While it had some really silly episodes, it also had some of the best episodes of any TV series ever.

I know! I wish I could experience it for the first time all over again. :(

I watched "Dog with Two Bones" last night because of this thread, but I think I might have to start having a marathon from the beginning. Not every episode, but definitely some of the better ones.

BigFoot June 8 2009 07:44 AM

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^ I've already watched the whole series four or five times. But yeah, I really need to watch it again. I might skip a few eps this time round... not sure yet though.


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