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77sevenseven June 5 2009 08:55 PM

Female uniforms in Star Trek
 
Ok this is my first post so go easy lol!

So it seams that in the Kelvin time male and female officers all wore the same uniform.

In the later years (as depicted onboard enterprise) a lot of women wore the mini skirt uniform. This uniform differs from the TOS female uniform in that is is has no sleaves. The problem with this is that the rank "rings" that you see on all of the male officers is not present. :confused: So there is no way to tell a female officers rank. I did see some females with the male version of the uniforms though!

Does anyone else think that this was a bit mad? I mean I would be a bit miffed If I were a female officer and no one could tell if I were a commander or a ensign!

Anyone agree?? Or have I missed something??

Classic Fan June 5 2009 09:04 PM

Re: Female uniforms in Star Trek
 
Well, the producers have stated that the KElvin is supposed to represent TOS and the Enterprise etc represents 'New Ultra modern Starfleet'.

Im guessing it was a clever decision on the costume departments part to dress the female Kelvin officers as, in The Cage (original pilot) the female officers wore the same tops and trousers as the male officers, the only difference being the collars of the female officers. Roddenberrys idea of untiy and equallity.

In TOS, the second pilot ep, Where no Mna has Gone Before, the female officers again wore the same as the male officers. It was the Corbomite Manouver that introduced Theiss's classic mini skirt uniforms. They were in TOS since then.

So you can look at it that way. The Kelvin is The Cage, the Enterprise is TOS.


On a costuming level anyway.

Nick Ryder June 5 2009 10:11 PM

Re: Female uniforms in Star Trek
 
I think it was because the women went "I am not wearing layers on a starship that's so frakkin' hot because of all the lens flare! You want me to smell pretty... I'm wearing short sleeves and a shorter skirt. And if you dare look at my undies, I'll beat you."

To which the guys were like "No problem. :D "Wear all the short skirts you want."

Jeri June 5 2009 10:16 PM

Re: Female uniforms in Star Trek
 
No, wait; the Kelvin was supposed to be "Forbidden Planet" -- i.e., before TOS. And the 1701 was TOS. Or?

P.S. Welcome 77sevenseven! :)

Royal Fizzbin June 5 2009 10:20 PM

Re: Female uniforms in Star Trek
 
I agree with the OP about the female miniskirt variant not having rank insignia. That doesn't make sense to me.

Or maybe the rank insignia stripes are on the underwear, and the skirts are so short so the wearer's rank can be more readily visible. ;)

M'Sharak June 5 2009 10:31 PM

Re: Female uniforms in Star Trek
 
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77sevenseven wrote: (Post 3049336)

Anyone agree?? Or have I missed something??

I believe the question's been raised before, but I don't think we've found a definite answer yet.

Islander June 5 2009 10:34 PM

Re: Female uniforms in Star Trek
 
I think we just did:
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Royal Fizzbin wrote: (Post 3049758)
maybe the rank insignia stripes are on the underwear, and the skirts are so short so the wearer's rank can be more readily visible.

:bolian:

Captain Fine June 5 2009 10:35 PM

Re: Female uniforms in Star Trek
 
It's still a step up for Troi's "uniform".

Though it's definitely nonsensical to not be able to tell a person's rank from their uniform.

77sevenseven June 5 2009 10:37 PM

Re: Female uniforms in Star Trek
 
Cheers guys, Yeah I just think it's a bit odd.

What did you guys think of the uniforms? I really liked the Kelvin uniforms however I guess they were a bit tight!

Liked the new spin on the TOS uniforms (except the annoying no rank issue on them mini skirts).

Would have been funny to see some of the guys in the mini skirts like they did on season one of TNG lol!

EnsignRicky June 5 2009 10:59 PM

Re: Female uniforms in Star Trek
 
That is a good question, they should have some way of displaying rank. I actually don't get the short sleeves anyway; Or the long skirts. ;)

And welcome aboard.

77sevenseven June 5 2009 11:25 PM

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EnsignRicky wrote: (Post 3049907)
And welcome aboard.

Thanks Fleet Captain! :techman:

FlyingLemons June 5 2009 11:44 PM

Re: Female uniforms in Star Trek
 
I saw female officers wearing a version of the male uniform as well, in addition to the miniskirt uniform.

Uhura just opted for the latter because she wanted to look hot. :techman:

Captain Fine June 6 2009 12:24 AM

Re: Female uniforms in Star Trek
 
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FlyingLemons wrote: (Post 3050068)
I saw female officers wearing a version of the male uniform as well, in addition to the miniskirt uniform.

Uhura just opted for the latter because she wanted to look hot. :techman:

I'll take that argument to be canon! If you got it, you should flaunt it.

I think Kirk needs a short-sleeve version :P Or maybe an uber deep V hehe.

77sevenseven June 7 2009 05:19 PM

Re: Female uniforms in Star Trek
 
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RegentWorf wrote: (Post 3050169)
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FlyingLemons wrote: (Post 3050068)
I saw female officers wearing a version of the male uniform as well, in addition to the miniskirt uniform.

Uhura just opted for the latter because she wanted to look hot. :techman:

I'll take that argument to be canon! If you got it, you should flaunt it.

I think Kirk needs a short-sleeve version :P Or maybe an uber deep V hehe.

Ha ha ha i'm thinking you would like this movie better if it was given an R18 certificate!

mythicdove June 7 2009 05:27 PM

Re: Female uniforms in Star Trek
 
Did anyone see any of the ladies wear a man's style uniform in the new movie? I didn't catch any, but there could have been.


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