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Aquehonga March 8 2009 05:15 AM

The Wii Zapper: simply AWESOME! Ultimate Target Master!
 
Do you have it?

The Zapper & Link's Crossbow are 1 of the best games/equipment I've ever played/used.

:hugegrin::techman::beer:

If you have the Wii I definitely advise getting the Zapper as it is so funtastic.

Besides Link's Crossbow, which comes with the Zapper, there are many games which use, or can use the Zapper, making them kick-arse :bolian:

Shame there are no AVP, ALIEN(S) or DOOM games for the Wii.

:mad::brickwall:

Link's Crossbow satisfies that desire though:techman:

Plus Link's Crossbow beautifully complements Phantom Hourglass on the DS:cool:

Do you have the Zapper or have used/played it?

Whaddya think?

OdoWanKenobi March 8 2009 06:40 AM

Re: The Wii Zapper: simply AWESOME! Ultimate Target Master!
 
I refuse to pay money for what is essentially a plastic shell that is not necessary to enjoy any games.

Kaijufan March 8 2009 07:03 AM

Re: The Wii Zapper: simply AWESOME! Ultimate Target Master!
 
To be fair it does come with a fun but short light gun game.

Kelthaz March 8 2009 07:44 AM

Re: The Wii Zapper: simply AWESOME! Ultimate Target Master!
 
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OdoWanKenobi wrote: (Post 2688918)
I refuse to pay money for what is essentially a plastic shell that is not necessary to enjoy any games.

Agreed.

TemporalFlux March 8 2009 05:04 PM

Re: The Wii Zapper: simply AWESOME! Ultimate Target Master!
 
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Aquehonga wrote: (Post 2688771)
Shame there are no AVP, ALIEN(S) or DOOM games for the Wii.

That's something that's really surprised me. Wii is ready made to adapt all of those gun games from the arcade and PC, but we haven't seen hardly any translate yet. Maybe House of the Dead is a sign that they're finally going to start recognizing Wii's ability in that area. It would be great to see things like the old T2 coin-op and even Aerosmith's Revolution X make the transfer.

OdoWanKenobi March 8 2009 05:54 PM

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I think hardcore game developers have given up on the Wii. The Wii is now for soccer moms and their little kids. I've always defended Nintendo against the notion that it is kiddy, but no longer. Gamers are no longer Nintendo's target audience.

Kaijufan March 8 2009 05:59 PM

Re: The Wii Zapper: simply AWESOME! Ultimate Target Master!
 
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OdoWanKenobi wrote: (Post 2689985)
I think hardcore game developers have given up on the Wii. The Wii is now for soccer moms and their little kids. I've always defended Nintendo against the notion that it is kiddy, but no longer. Gamers are no longer Nintendo's target audience.

I can understand why hardcore game developers would rather develop games for the 360/PS3/PC, but I do think we're going to start seeing some AAA hardcore games in the next year or two. Don't forget it takes 2 to 3 years to make a AAA hardcore game, and by 2007 and 2008 developers were realizing the Wii wasn't a fad.

As for Nintendo I'm sure they have plenty of hardcore games in development, they have just changed their marketing strategy so that they don't announce most games until a few months before they come out. Personally I think it's a bad idea and you don't build up hype among hardcore gamers, but I guess they think it's a good idea.

Timby March 8 2009 07:43 PM

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Kaijufan wrote: (Post 2690000)
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OdoWanKenobi wrote: (Post 2689985)
I think hardcore game developers have given up on the Wii. The Wii is now for soccer moms and their little kids. I've always defended Nintendo against the notion that it is kiddy, but no longer. Gamers are no longer Nintendo's target audience.

I can understand why hardcore game developers would rather develop games for the 360/PS3/PC, but I do think we're going to start seeing some AAA hardcore games in the next year or two. Don't forget it takes 2 to 3 years to make a AAA hardcore game, and by 2007 and 2008 developers were realizing the Wii wasn't a fad.

As for Nintendo I'm sure they have plenty of hardcore games in development, they have just changed their marketing strategy so that they don't announce most games until a few months before they come out. Personally I think it's a bad idea and you don't build up hype among hardcore gamers, but I guess they think it's a good idea.

The problem is that the Wii's hardware was outdated when it first hit the market. After analysis, the statement that it has roughly the power of the first Xbox is only true when taking into account the additional computing power required for the motion-detection hardware. Its hardware has already been stretched to the extent of its capabilities. Outside of this "Wii Motion Plus" thing, about which Nintendo is strangely quiet, the Wii's biggest breakthroughs have already come and gone.

However, because of its utterly insane sales numbers, I fear the Wii is the harbinger of a dark generation for gaming ... a time when a control gimmick is the prime mover, as opposed to game quality. Robbie Bach, of Microsoft, says that a jump in graphics, sound and gameplay quality won't be enough to succeed in the next generation (a likely indicator that Microsoft is building motion-sensing capability into its next console). He's wrong. But the Wii's success is teaching the entirely wrong lessons for the next generation of consoles.

Aquehonga March 8 2009 08:15 PM

Re: The Wii Zapper: simply AWESOME! Ultimate Target Master!
 
You darn :vulcan:s!

Did you, or do you, have fun using/playing the Zapper:confused:

Like "Row Row Row Your Boat":wtf:

Enjoy singing the song! Forget the damn lyrics:brickwall:

Aficionados should have a funtastic time with the Zapper:beer:

Anal-yze & overanal-yze about it's tech specs later, or when you're on the pot:mad:

God forsaken :vulcan:s!

:brickwall:

Yoda March 8 2009 08:42 PM

Re: The Wii Zapper: simply AWESOME! Ultimate Target Master!
 
I got one of the knockoff Wii Zappers... the one from Nyko I think. It's fun to boot up House of the Dead and Ghost Squad with it. It's far from perfect though.

I don't think I'm a fan of the 'jack of all trades' wiimote. Point it at the screen, it's a gun! Turn it on its side and it's a steering wheel! I'd be a much happier camper if real high quality peripherals like flight sticks, steering wheels, and light guns (I'm talking arcade version of Ghost Squad MP5 light gun here) were on the market and WELL SUPPORTED. But that will never happen.

I hear Burnout Paradise is hitting PC soon with support for multiple monitors (I have three 1920x1200 24" Samsung LCDs). Maybe I'll pick that up, there are probably good wheels available for PC somewhere.

Kaijufan March 9 2009 04:25 AM

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JKTim wrote: (Post 2690295)
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Kaijufan wrote: (Post 2690000)
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OdoWanKenobi wrote: (Post 2689985)
I think hardcore game developers have given up on the Wii. The Wii is now for soccer moms and their little kids. I've always defended Nintendo against the notion that it is kiddy, but no longer. Gamers are no longer Nintendo's target audience.

I can understand why hardcore game developers would rather develop games for the 360/PS3/PC, but I do think we're going to start seeing some AAA hardcore games in the next year or two. Don't forget it takes 2 to 3 years to make a AAA hardcore game, and by 2007 and 2008 developers were realizing the Wii wasn't a fad.

As for Nintendo I'm sure they have plenty of hardcore games in development, they have just changed their marketing strategy so that they don't announce most games until a few months before they come out. Personally I think it's a bad idea and you don't build up hype among hardcore gamers, but I guess they think it's a good idea.

The problem is that the Wii's hardware was outdated when it first hit the market. After analysis, the statement that it has roughly the power of the first Xbox is only true when taking into account the additional computing power required for the motion-detection hardware. Its hardware has already been stretched to the extent of its capabilities. Outside of this "Wii Motion Plus" thing, about which Nintendo is strangely quiet, the Wii's biggest breakthroughs have already come and gone.

However, because of its utterly insane sales numbers, I fear the Wii is the harbinger of a dark generation for gaming ... a time when a control gimmick is the prime mover, as opposed to game quality. Robbie Bach, of Microsoft, says that a jump in graphics, sound and gameplay quality won't be enough to succeed in the next generation (a likely indicator that Microsoft is building motion-sensing capability into its next console). He's wrong. But the Wii's success is teaching the entirely wrong lessons for the next generation of consoles.

Having lower end hardware isn't a huge problem for me personally. In the future Super Mario Galaxy is still going to look great when 99% of 360 and PS3 games look horrible compared to what is being released.

It's also pretty sad when I look at games on the 360 and see things like texture pop in, frame rate drops, and long loading times while Nintendo games basically little to no load times, and silky smooth frame rates on inferior hardware. Honestly smooth frame rates, no texture pop in (I'm looking at you Unreal Engine) and short load times are more important to me then super pretty graphics. It seems like most 360 developers don't share my opinion (I guess you can't see those things in screenshots).



I honestly don't believe that the huge hardware leaps we usually see between consoles is still sustanable, especially when the manufactures loose hundreds of dollars per console. I wouldn't be surprised if the next Microsoft and Sony systems are only small leaps and they loose little to nothing on each console sold on launch day. Besides, we're getting to the point where graphics can't get that much better, and it's getting prohibility expensive to make AAA quality realistic visuals.

While traditional controllers will always have their place (as will Keyboard and Mice of course) there's nothing wrong with also having motion controls, especially when they are 1:1 motion like Wii Motion Plus. Infrared pointers are also great, the controls in the Wii version of Resident Evil 4 are far superior to the Gamecube/PS2 controls. They're so good I'm not looking forward to having to use a 360 controller to play Resident Evil 5 this Friday.

firehawk12 March 9 2009 06:48 AM

Re: The Wii Zapper: simply AWESOME! Ultimate Target Master!
 
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Aquehonga wrote: (Post 2688771)
Do you have it?

Shame there are no AVP, ALIEN(S) or DOOM games for the Wii.

Lots of zombie games though... House of the Dead, Resident Evil, Ghost Squad...


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