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Rush Limborg March 3 2009 11:31 PM

UFP Anthem
 
I posted this in "Captain's Lounge", but no one picked it up.

OKAY...considering the few lines of music we heard of the UFP Anthem (in "Take Me Out To The Holosuite" (DS9)), what say we all try to write lyrics to the song?

Make it stirring. Make it inspiring. Make it...patriotic!

Herkimer Jitty March 3 2009 11:48 PM

Re: UFP Anthem
 
It just so happens that I have the original version of the lyrics as written by Jonathan Archer:

Among the stars
We all join hands
Brothers in harmony
Unlike those fucking Vulcans

Then it goes on about how aliens suck for a while. Talk about a faux pas.

Nerroth March 4 2009 12:06 AM

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Well, just imagine what the 'other' Archer would have written.


But then, if the Imperial anthem is this, it would need no lyrics!

Nerys Ghemor March 4 2009 06:56 AM

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Rush...this may be my personal opinion, but I don't think the song HAS lyrics. Somehow I think it's there to be nice, but not to really stir up patriotism. Because patriotism would equal nationalism in their book and that's what Cardassians do. Noooooooo, can't have THAT...

(Sorry...I've been cynical lately. I'm sure you understand.)

nx1701g March 4 2009 07:12 AM

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^ I don't think that it has words either.

unusualsuspex July 12 2009 09:59 PM

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I must admit, I wrote a set of words to include in a forthcoming fanfic on the grounds that an anthem without words is generally meaningless (IMHO) but anyhoo:

Verse 1

Lift up your voices, Loud and strong,
Banish injustice, Conquer all wrongs,
Join with our bretheren from star to star,
United we stand the Federation


Verse 2

Hope and freedom, free from strife,
Cherish equality, in every life,
Striving in fellowship, heed now these words,
In peace we will thrive, the Federation.

Howzat?? :cool:

Nerys Ghemor July 12 2009 10:05 PM

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Kumbaaaayaaaaaah.... ;)

Thor Damar July 12 2009 10:11 PM

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Quote:

Nerys Ghemor wrote: (Post 2674726)
Rush...this may be my personal opinion, but I don't think the song HAS lyrics. Somehow I think it's there to be nice, but not to really stir up patriotism. Because patriotism would equal nationalism in their book and that's what Cardassians do. Noooooooo, can't have THAT...

(Sorry...I've been cynical lately. I'm sure you understand.)

Agreed with this(are not all anthems nationalistic anyway;)) for the very good reason that the Cardassian interstellar anthem, 'Cardassia forever' would have lyrics just for the simple reason that Cardassians love to talk!

'sides you don't need to apologise for your cynicism, it's expected from a citizen of Cardassia

Sci July 12 2009 10:13 PM

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I think it unlikely that the Federation Anthem has any lyrics. Whose language would it be in? English, Vulcan, Andorian, Tellarite, Mandarin, Spanish?

nx1701g July 12 2009 11:14 PM

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^ Federation standard :)

Caretaker July 12 2009 11:40 PM

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Hey, the Colonial Anthem (from Battlestar Galactica) didn't have lyrics - and all of those people are human. So not having lyrics is not out of the question for the Federation.

CorporalClegg July 12 2009 11:51 PM

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Quote:

Herkimer Jitty wrote: (Post 2673414)
It just so happens that I have the original version of the lyrics as written by Jonathan Archer:

Among the stars
We all join hands
Brothers in harmony
Unlike those fucking Vulcans

Then it goes on about how aliens suck for a while. Talk about a faux pas.

That was awesome. You earned a cookie. :bolian:

Mr. Laser Beam July 13 2009 12:30 AM

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'Unlike those fucking Vulcans'... :guffaw:

Nerroth: The Terran Empire's national anthem would probably be this. :evil:

Deranged Nasat July 13 2009 12:48 AM

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Quote:

Rush Limborg wrote: (Post 2673346)
I posted this in "Captain's Lounge", but no one picked it up.

OKAY...considering the few lines of music we heard of the UFP Anthem (in "Take Me Out To The Holosuite" (DS9)), what say we all try to write lyrics to the song?

Make it stirring. Make it inspiring. Make it...patriotic!

Or matriotic, depending on the traditions of your world and its early cultures ;). Even a discussion of what the lyrics should imply might run aground upon 150 different cultural perceptions, regardless of the common cause and beliefs that unite them in the Federation.

What if, say, a large number of Tellarites have a religious objection to use of the word "unity" in an official anthem (implies one voice where many, competing arguments must be heard) but Efrosians require it's presence in any song conveying social belief systems (or else it fails to tie each individual's song into the whole and implies chaos?). What if Deltans decide sex should be mentioned and Arbazan object most strongly? What if putting words to music in general is taboo to Saurians yet mandatory to Denobulans? ;)

We could go on for days. :)

Sci July 13 2009 12:57 AM

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Quote:

nx1701g wrote: (Post 3181470)
^ Federation standard :)

Hm. "Federation Standard" sounds good for starship hulls and the like, but why would the UFP put something that's supposed to be inspirational to all of its citizens into a language they do not share?

Shouldn't the Anthem be the most inclusive musical composition possible -- and therefore be on that either lacks official lyrics, or which has official lyrics in every single Federation language?

And it's not like national anthems have to have lyrics. "La Marcha Real" does not, nor does "Državna himna Bosne i Hercegovine" (Bosnia and Herzegovina), nor does the Anthem of Europe.


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