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Aragorn February 13 2009 08:40 PM

Dollhouse: "Ghost" 2/13 - Grading & Discussion
 


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Dream February 14 2009 12:59 AM

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So will Faith be appearing in this? :)

Samurai8472 February 14 2009 02:27 AM

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Alot is riding on this show's success. Some have little faith it will survive.

Starbreaker February 14 2009 03:22 AM

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This is a snoozefest.

nx1701g February 14 2009 03:26 AM

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Starbreaker wrote: (Post 2610833)
This is a snoozefest.

I have to agree so far. Nice that they mentioned EJO though.

Mr. Adventure February 14 2009 03:26 AM

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Dream wrote: (Post 2610325)
So will Faith be appearing in this? :)

And a rough looking Fred.

Starbreaker February 14 2009 03:57 AM

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It's convoluted and boring, but I got to see Eliza Dushku in a towel.

FALCONX0N February 14 2009 04:11 AM

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I'm not too impressed so far. And a little preturbed about the premise to be honest. Especially factoring in that it was, according to rumor, borne out of a conversation that Eliza Dushku had with Joss Whedon (supposedly, they're very close, in a kind of mentor-way).

It's neat enough that I'll watch it next week, and I can tell it's got style. Acting is spotty, but hey, it's a pilot, they're never perfect acting wise. Eliza is good, I say, considering her character is 'I do not have a character.' Sleepy-time Echo is just annoying, though.

I do honestly want to see what Helo there gets up to, but the premise is just...too weird for me. Well, no...I can buy the premise, and it is intreaguing, I'm just not sure I can stomach it for the entire series run as the protagonists. My gut says that we're following the bad guys...and my gut says that Whedon knows this and will pull the rug out from under us mid-season. Coming from Whedon, it just seems kind of antithesisical (is that a word?) to some of his previous work which prided itself on the feminism and female empowerment--here, the main lead is essentially, a helpless, brainwashed slave. Like I said, my gut says it'll change and the real story is about Echo bringing DOWN this organization--if Fox lets the show get that far. Which they wont. Otherwise, I fear if I'm wrong, this is going to be a case of misaimed fandom--like all those fans which honestly see Rei from Neon Genesis Evangelion as an ideal girlfriend. Those fans, I fear most of all. And if that's the case, that's actually the message that Whedon's trying to get across, then I can just picture the pitch for this show in my head:

Whedon: "Alright, yes, here's my new idea: Girls. Right? Hot girls."

Producer: "You've got my interest now, Mister Whedon, but, you've done that. Buffy. 7 years, changed television forever. Remember?"

"Right. Okay. Hot girls that bend to your every whim. They're programable, see? They can be lovers, or assassins, and--"

"Wasn't that an anime?"

"So was Firefly, nobody called me on that."

"Point. Continue. *Steeples fingers.*"

"Okay. So like I said, programmable. They bend to your every whim--if you're rich enough. That's the hook! These girls have no personality--except the one that you gave her! So it's, um, existential! And it's starring my friend Eliza..."

"Alright Whedon, enough. You want to do Eliza Dushku. That's fine, that's normal. The programable stuff, um....kinda weird. Go get some help, man. You need some therapy!"

"Right, exactly! And this is Hollywood, sooooo..."

"Good point! Here's several million dollars and a prime time slot!"

But I'll give it a few more eps before I make any real judgement on Dollhouse, aside from my snarky comments...

ancientone51 February 14 2009 04:14 AM

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Was not impressed with it.

I'm sorry, Dushku really doesn't do much in this but be obvious and telegraph her 'brilliant and important acting" in this. She doesn't get lost in the role, any of them. She seems to think it is a chance to play/be so many parts and she isn't really any of them.

Aragorn February 14 2009 04:15 AM

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I'm in the wrong time zone to be watching live, plus I'm not at home, but is it touched upon that if you could tell someone that looks like Eliza Dushku to do whatever you want her to do, would naughty intent ensue? Sort of like with Anne Hathaway in Ella Enchanted.

Lindley February 14 2009 04:15 AM

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I found it intriguing enough. Not much of a "hook" anywhere, but better than most procedurals which might tell similar stories.

Lindley February 14 2009 04:19 AM

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Aragorn wrote: (Post 2611025)
I'm in the wrong time zone to be watching live, plus I'm not at home, but is it touched upon that if you could tell someone that looks like Eliza Dushku to do whatever you want her to do, would naughty intent ensue? Sort of like with Anne Hathaway in Ella Enchanted.

One of the clients certainly approached her that way, but the professionals at the Dollhouse itself didn't seem too interested.

Samurai8472 February 14 2009 04:19 AM

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I have a feeling this show will do well on DVD.......after it's cancelled

nx1701g February 14 2009 04:20 AM

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I'm going to give it another shot, but I'm not anticipating much success for it.

FALCONX0N February 14 2009 04:21 AM

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Aragorn wrote: (Post 2611025)
I'm in the wrong time zone to be watching live, plus I'm not at home, but is it touched upon that if you could tell someone that looks like Eliza Dushku to do whatever you want her to do, would naughty intent ensue? Sort of like with Anne Hathaway in Ella Enchanted.


Not really a spoiler, but if you're talking about what I THINK you're talking about--wink wink, nudge nudge, say no more, say no more--then that's a question that is answered right in the pre-credit sequence.

In short, following the credits, a little voice in the center of my mind jumped on a table and shouted:

"JOSS WHEDON HAS FINALLY MADE A SHOW ABOUT THE INCREDIBLE LIVES OF BRAINWASHED CYBER-PROSTITUTES!"

...that voice was quickly silenced.


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